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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    ~ More Skinny ~

    Part I

    On February 4, 1937

    Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock} nearly signed a deal for his fighter
    to defend against Max Schmeling on June 3, 1937 at Madison Square Garden.

    But the concern was, that the early Gate Receipt 'estimates' were only around
    $250,000.

    Also, the Joe Louis Camp was worried that 'if' Max Schmeling won, he would
    take the World Championship back to Germany, and hold it in 'protective custody'
    for 2-Years {until 1939}.

    There was also concern, that the World Championship would be used as 'a vehicle'
    for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Propaganda Machine.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Part II

    The Joe Louis Camp was willing to 'play-ball' to get 'The Brown Bomber' a Title
    chance first, and before Max Schmeling could steal it away from James Braddock
    and bring it back to Germany.

    On February 19, 1937 >

    Chicago Fight Promoter - Joe Folley put together an incredible deal for the World
    Champion - James Braddock.

    First > The bout would be held at Comiskey Park in Chicago on June 22, 1937.

    Second > The estimated Gate Receipts would be close to $1,000,000.

    Third > James Braddock was to receive {67 1/2 %} of the Gate Receipts, and
    with a 'minimum guarantee' of $500,000.

    Fourth > James Braddock would receive 50% of the Motion Picture rights, and
    Broadcasting rights.

    Fifth > James Braddock would receive 10% of Joe Louis' future purses for the
    next 10-Years. {Capped at $15,000 per Year}.

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    James Braddock

    '1937' Sparring Partners
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * Jack McCarthy ~ {Age; 27} ~ 6' 4" ~ 202 lbs. ~ {Roxbury, Massachusetts}
    * Record > 16-14-2 {8 KO's}

    Jack was a long-time friend of James Braddock. McCarthy was a durable-type who
    was a good gym sparring partner. Labeled as a 'real tough-guy'.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * Max 'Maxie' Roesch ~ {Age; 23} ~ 6' 4" ~ 195 lbs. ~ {Dallas, Texas}
    * Record > 9-3-1 {6 KO's}

    'Maxie' was a speed-boxer, who had good footwork and decent power. He was brought
    in to 'primarily' help with Braddock's speed and timing.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * Charlie Massera~ {Age; 27} ~ 6' 2" ~ 190 lbs. ~ {Upper Darby, Pennsylvania}
    * Record > 35-17-5 {11 KO's}

    Charlie was brought in to pretty much be a 'punching bag', to give James Braddock
    'Rounds-in-the-Ring' to work off the rust.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * Henry Cooper ~ {Age; 20} ~ 6' 1' ~ 185 lbs. ~ {Brooklyn, New York}
    * Record > 15-6-1 {4 KO's}

    Henry was brought in because he had a good looping right-hand, much like the
    Challenger - Joe Louis. Henry was a young kid, who was a decent boxer with good
    hand-speed. Though, he had little power.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * Bill Irby ~ {Age; 21} ~ 6' 0" ~ 180 lbs. ~ {Brooklyn, New York}
    * Record > 0-7-1 {0 KO's}

    Bill Irby was brought in to be nothing more than a body, to give James Braddock rounds.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 06-18-2015 at 09:27 PM.

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    Joe Louis

    1937 Sparring Partners
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * Roy Lazer ~ {Age; 25} ~ 6' 1" ~ 190 lbs. ~ {Paterson, New Jersey}
    * Record > 45-7-3 {19 KO's}

    Strictly a boxer/mover, and also a good counter-puncher. Brought in to help with
    Joe's footwork.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    George Williams ~ {Age; 22} ~ 6' 5" ~ 220 lbs. ~ {Chicago, Illinois}
    * Record > 5-0-0 {3 KO's}

    Called 'The Giant Negro'. A big, young and strapping prospect. Strictly used as a mauler,
    to help Joe with stamina and endurance.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Tiger Hairston ~ {Age; 24} ~ 6' 1" ~ 180 lbs. ~ {Wheeling, West Virginia}
    Record > 22-4-2 {12 KO's}

    A good boxer/puncher, who had quick hands and slick footwork. He was used to help
    Joe in 'Cutting-off-the-Ring', and setting traps.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Salvatore Ruggirello ~ {Age; 31} ~ 6' 1" ~ 200 lbs. ~ {Tunis, Tunisia}
    Record > 29-52-0 {23 KO's}

    Called, the Italian 'Bocce Ball'. A durable punching-bag. Used to give Joe 'Rounds in the Ring'.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    George Higgs ~ {Age; 22} ~ 6' 2 1/2"" ~ 170 lbs. ~ {Florida, by way of New York City}
    Record > 3-5-1 {2 KO's}

    Nothing more than a body, to help with Joe's timing and left-jab. Was tall enough to present
    someone like Braddock's height.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    George 'Nickels' Nicholson ~ {Age; 24} ~ 6' 1" ~ 192 lbs. ~ {Yonkers, New York}
    Record > 6-4-0 {5 KO's}

    Another young 'body' to take punishment.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Leonard 'Tree' Dixon ~ {Age; 29} ~ 6' 7" ~ 215 lbs. ~ {Philadelphia, Pennsylvania}
    Record > 14-14-1 {8 KO's}

    A tall fighter, who had long arms. Another fighter to imitate the tall stance of James Braddock,
    to help Joe Louis with his left-jab.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 06-15-2015 at 05:56 PM.

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    ~ More Skinny ~

    Part I

    On February 4, 1937

    Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock} nearly signed a deal for his fighter
    to defend against Max Schmeling on June 3, 1937 at Madison Square Garden.

    But the concern was, that the early Gate Receipt 'estimates' were only around
    $250,000.

    Also, the Joe Louis Camp was worried that 'if' Max Schmeling won, he would
    take the World Championship back to Germany, and hold it in 'protective custody'
    for 2-Years {until 1939}.

    There was also concern, that the World Championship would be used as 'a vehicle'
    for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Propaganda Machine.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Part II

    The Joe Louis Camp was willing to 'play-ball' to get 'The Brown Bomber' a Title
    chance first, and before Max Schmeling could steal it away from James Braddock
    and bring it back to Germany.

    On February 19, 1937 >

    Chicago Fight Promoter - Joe Folley put together an incredible deal for the World
    Champion - James Braddock.

    First > The bout would be held at Comiskey Park in Chicago on June 22, 1937.

    Second > The estimated Gate Receipts would be close to $1,000,000.

    Third > James Braddock was to receive {67 1/2 %} of the Gate Receipts, and
    with a 'minimum guarantee' of $500,000.

    Fourth > James Braddock would receive 50% of the Motion Picture rights, and
    Broadcasting rights.

    Fifth > James Braddock would receive 10% of Joe Louis' future purses for the
    next 10-Years. {Capped at $15,000 per Year}.
    ~ The Contract ~

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    ~ More Skinny ~

    Part I

    On February 4, 1937

    Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock} nearly signed a deal for his fighter
    to defend against Max Schmeling on June 3, 1937 at Madison Square Garden.

    But the concern was, that the early Gate Receipt 'estimates' were only around
    $250,000.

    Also, the Joe Louis Camp was worried that 'if' Max Schmeling won, he would
    take the World Championship back to Germany, and hold it in 'protective custody'
    for 2-Years {until 1939}.

    There was also concern, that the World Championship would be used as 'a vehicle'
    for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Propaganda Machine.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Part II

    The Joe Louis Camp was willing to 'play-ball' to get 'The Brown Bomber' a Title
    chance first, and before Max Schmeling could steal it away from James Braddock
    and bring it back to Germany.

    On February 19, 1937 >

    Chicago Fight Promoter - Joe Folley put together an incredible deal for the World
    Champion - James Braddock.

    First > The bout would be held at Comiskey Park in Chicago on June 22, 1937.

    Second > The estimated Gate Receipts would be close to $1,000,000.

    Third > James Braddock was to receive {67 1/2 %} of the Gate Receipts, and
    with a 'minimum guarantee' of $500,000.

    Fourth > James Braddock would receive 50% of the Motion Picture rights, and
    Broadcasting rights.

    Fifth > James Braddock would receive 10% of Joe Louis' future purses for the
    next 10-Years. {Capped at $15,000 per Year}.
    ~ The Contract ~
    sounds like Joe was taken advantage of in many ways. I like Braddock but reaching into another man's purse to such an extent don't sound right to me.

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    Well to be fair Louis was lucky to get the shot after getting his ass fucking kicked in by Max i mean come on now he was owned and got the shot. I say take advantage and there nothing unethical about it Louis lost so he had to make some sacrifices to get the hw belt and he did.

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well to be fair Louis was lucky to get the shot after getting his ass fucking kicked in by Max i mean come on now he was owned and got the shot. I say take advantage and there nothing unethical about it Louis lost so he had to make some sacrifices to get the hw belt and he did.
    This Is True

    Madison Square Garden was in the middle of putting together a James Braddock vs. Max Schmeling
    bout.

    Then the Chicago Connection slipped in, and offered Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock}
    'a sweetheart deal' to by-pass the Title Fight with Max Schmeling.

    It was all about .......'The Money'

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    ~ Gate Receipts ~

    Attendance ............. 41,684

    Gross Receipts ........ $715,420
    Net Receipts ........... $593,380 {After State and Federal Taxes}

    Fight Purses

    James Braddock ...... $296,960 {After Taxes}
    Joe Louis ................ $115,125 {After Taxes}

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    Default Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'

    Joe never paid his taxes.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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