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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Wilder is supposed to be a massive puncher but Arreola stopped Molina in the first.

    He struggled to control him.

    Its more a case of this fight proved how poor Stiverne was.

    Wilder will make for fun fights but hes not going to be a title holder for long. Oddly enough I still think he beats Povetkin with his height.

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Wilder is supposed to be a massive puncher but Arreola stopped Molina in the first.

    He struggled to control him.

    Its more a case of this fight proved how poor Stiverne was.

    Wilder will make for fun fights but hes not going to be a title holder for long. Oddly enough I still think he beats Povetkin with his height.
    That's the Chris Arreola who was stopped by Stiverne, the Stiverne who was clearly outpointed by Wilder. Right ?

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Wilder looked poor I was not impressed with this performance, he does bring a bit of excitement
    to the HW division, maybe a off night I NO if he gets in the ring with Povetkin he better shape
    up, or his rein as Champion will be short lived.

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Wilder probably took his opponent lightly and against serious competition he will raise his game particularly if it is Povetkin or Wlad.
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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Wilder is supposed to be a massive puncher but Arreola stopped Molina in the first.

    He struggled to control him.

    Its more a case of this fight proved how poor Stiverne was.

    Wilder will make for fun fights but hes not going to be a title holder for long. Oddly enough I still think he beats Povetkin with his height.
    How did Arreola bomb Molina out? With furious combinations that Arreola is famous for. No one closes you out when he has you hurt quite like Arreola, now admit it. Sure, he may not have bone crushing power, but Arreola does not take his foot off of the gas WHEN IN SHAPE in terms of "closing out" a strong opponent.

    Wilder is a one time smash guy. A true heavyweight with heavyweight power. But as we saw, as his opponents get tougher willed and more strong chins, Wilder's one punch gimmick can be weathered.
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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Credit where credit is due. I think Wilder fought an excellent fight against Stiverne. People can dump on Stiverne all they want, but fact remains he's still a very dangerous fighter on any given night. Unfortunately, I also think Wilder somehow regressed against Molina. Not to take anything away from Molina, but Wilder looked amateurish at times. One of the things he does way too often is hold his hands low and back away from punches a la Ali. Wilder is not Ali, and he should stop acting like him. Ali could get away with a lot of things that Wilder will not be able to get away with. I used to think Wilder had a great probability to beat Wlad. I've changed my mind. In fact, if Wilder fights Povetkin the same way he fought Molina.... he might be in for a rude awakening.

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Wilder is supposed to be a massive puncher but Arreola stopped Molina in the first.

    He struggled to control him.

    Its more a case of this fight proved how poor Stiverne was.

    Wilder will make for fun fights but hes not going to be a title holder for long. Oddly enough I still think he beats Povetkin with his height.
    molina was a lot more ambitious against arreola

    he was there to survive against wilder

    if he had had a bit more belief against wilder he might have caused a massive shock in the 3rd
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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    The question should be how Molina would have done with the other top heavies.

    We already know what Arreola would do to him.

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The question should be how Molina would have done with the other top heavies.

    We already know what Arreola would do to him.

    Styles make fights , Arreola beat Molina , Stiverne beat Arreola , Wilder beat Stiverne.

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The question should be how Molina would have done with the other top heavies.

    We already know what Arreola would do to him.

    Styles make fights , Arreola beat Molina , Stiverne beat Arreola , Wilder beat Stiverne.
    Maybe but I never rated Stiverne. Maybe he just out toughed Arreola but Molina gets beaten sooner by every other heavy.

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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The question should be how Molina would have done with the other top heavies.

    We already know what Arreola would do to him.

    Styles make fights , Arreola beat Molina , Stiverne beat Arreola , Wilder beat Stiverne.
    Maybe but I never rated Stiverne. Maybe he just out toughed Arreola but Molina gets beaten sooner by every other heavy.
    I truly believe now that Stiverne really was sick on the night of the fight. I also believe he had the wrong game plan, and especially post Wilder/Molina when we see the benefits of going to the body of Wilder means to weakening him.
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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Stiverne should fight more regularly
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    Default Re: What should be said about Deontay Wilder now?

    Any video of Wilder getting rocked?

    I think Wilder being raw is part of his aura. It gets a lot of guys who aren't technically good boxers off their games because there's this idea that Wilder will throw without regard to what might come back at him so it might make them wary of trying to counter him or set him up for a trap. I think his rawness plus his power is what has given him this "wow" factor....but you scratch the surface and he's just another boxer, get somebody in there with some guts someone not afraid to roll and counter against him, someone not intimidated by his size, someone who knows they will be safer in the pocket against him vs on the outside and then you'll see Deontay struggle.

    I think Povetkin has a great chance to upset the apple cart here, he has to be thinking if Molina can catch Wilder let alone hurt him then Alex can knock him down and if he can knock him down then it's likely he can knock him out.

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