Does technical boxing have its place

[showmi]

If you have good balance moving is not a problem

Yes! Grey I agree, the difference is if the opponent runs in behind the right hand that should offset balance.

[showmi]

Glen Johnson the man who ran in behind the right hand. Evander Holyfield used this as well to offset a well balanced Mike Tyson https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G_fM3OIbua4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-mB7CY_8w
Throw the right hand and sprint in behind it and drop your head down.

[greynotsoold]

Can you provide an example of Kenny Weldon instructing to throw punches while off-balance?
Is Gonzalez only unsteady while punching from angles, or is he generally wobbly?

[red fox]

Can you provide an example of Kenny Weldon instructing to throw punches while off-balance?
Is Gonzalez only unsteady while punching from angles, or is he generally wobbly?

Kenny Weldon tells you to take a step forward with just one foot and go under the airmpit and punch a wide arm hook to the body. Gonzalez is a punch drunken monkey style fighter.

[greynotsoold]

Can you provide an example of Kenny Weldon instructing to throw punches while off-balance?
Is Gonzalez only unsteady while punching from angles, or is he generally wobbly?

Kenny Weldon tells you to take a step forward with just one foot and go under the airmpit and punch a wide arm hook to the body. Gonzalez is a punch drunken monkey style fighter.

Go under who's armpit? With what? Can you show where he explains that?
A punch drunken monkey style? Oh. Does anyone else have this style? Or is Roman Gonzalez the only punch drunken monkey boxing today?

[red fox]

Can you provide an example of Kenny Weldon instructing to throw punches while off-balance?
Is Gonzalez only unsteady while punching from angles, or is he generally wobbly?

Kenny Weldon tells you to take a step forward with just one foot and go under the airmpit and punch a wide arm hook to the body. Gonzalez is a punch drunken monkey style fighter.

Go under who's armpit? With what? Can you show where he explains that?
A punch drunken monkey style? Oh. Does anyone else have this style? Or is Roman Gonzalez the only punch drunken monkey boxing today?

Kenny trained a Russian who fought a hard punching fighter who would have ko'd him in a normal fight. So Weldon made a number of adjustments first being said that he told Sergei that he wasn't strong enough to fight or go toe to toe with the his opponent. The examples were the rasslin puppies who inorder to get inside of their opponent they had to go underneath their Armpits.

To do this you've got to fight what Kenny call "tall" or getting down to the eye levels of your opponent once at their eye level you should be in a long stance from this stance the weight is over the rear leg. That rear leg then pushes the lead foot forward allowing you to go even further downward and under your opponent.
Gonzalez style of fighting is movement without control, this makes him dangerous since he is a ko artist and could knock out an opponent with an open glove. There's nothing esoteric with his style of fighting

[greynotsoold]

Which fight was that? And where does that involve being taught to punch while off balance? Don't you always vie for the inside punching position? You fight tall by getting under your opponent? From a wide stance? With the weight to the rear?
Gonzalez is an off balance punch drunk monkey that can score a KO with an open glove? Really?

[red fox]

Which fight was that? And where does that involve being taught to punch while off balance? Don't you always vie for the inside punching position? You fight tall by getting under your opponent? From a wide stance? With the weight to the rear?
Gonzalez is an off balance punch drunk monkey that can score a KO with an open glove? Really?

most ppl are lumbering plodders and trodders, while Gonzalez is so quick on his feet and hands that we've nothing to learn from him?

[greynotsoold]

Which fight was that? And where does that involve being taught to punch while off balance? Don't you always vie for the inside punching position? You fight tall by getting under your opponent? From a wide stance? With the weight to the rear?
Gonzalez is an off balance punch drunk monkey that can score a KO with an open glove? Really?

most ppl are lumbering plodders and trodders, while Gonzalez is so quick on his feet and hands that we've nothing to learn from him?

You tell me. I'm just trying to keep up.

[greynotsoold]

Gonzalez is a cowardly punch drunk monkey with poor balance yet he can score a KO with an open glove? While throwing 40 yard passes?
Gibberish.

[red fox]

Gonzalez is a cowardly punch drunk monkey with poor balance yet he can score a KO with an open glove? While throwing 40 yard passes?
Gibberish.

Greys the more contact with the floor the better the stability, which is why amateur coaches don't want you moving about. Keep your planted and measured bend your knees to defend against body punches, stance is your gait. Rest your hands on both sides of your chin this is your defense against head shots, lifting the elbows rapidly throwing straight punches.

As far as Gonzalez goes he throws long punches that could take the head of a bull off. I guess he sees his opponent with a pair of big tits and big lips, and then does the two-step dance. I can't come up with out anyother answer as to why a power punch should move his feet.

[greynotsoold]

You are supposed to stand with both feet flat on the floor, knees bent, hands by your chin, elbows sticking straight out...and you are supposed to fight like that?
Really?
Your "national team " "coaches " told you that?
Really?
Just noticed the Mayweather video. That has what to do with what? It is virtually opposite of what you are describing here. In fact we spent weeks here with you railing against what he does there.

[red fox]

You are supposed to stand with both feet flat on the floor, knees bent, hands by your chin, elbows sticking straight out...and you are supposed to fight like that?
Really?
Your "national team " "coaches " told you that?
Really?
Just noticed the Mayweather video. That has what to do with what? It is virtually opposite of what you are describing here. In fact we spent weeks here with you railing against what he does there.

Elbows are tucked in, and turn your left shoulder in slightly, bending both knees, tucking your chin in, head down!

[showmi]

Jack Johnson used various clinches one hitting after the clinch, and clinch to stop punches from happening what is known as punches in bunches followed by clinches.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=34MHPHygSGE

[Gray Lion]

When you talk about MMA, your not talking about traditional boxing. I was seeing MMA type fighting in bars and alley ways back in the 50's. For the most part, the rules of MMA are that there really are no rules. It's great fighting in the real world and on the battlefield, it's now a big money maker and the biggest show in town. That being said, I do recognize that an MMA fighter has to be in better shape, take more dangerous blows, and needs to master fighting elements from all martial arts.
traditional boxing requires an understanding of tactical boxing, master being a tactical boxer and you will become a dangerous fighter. I notice spectators do not understand a tactical fighter and wrongfully boo him for seemingly being to cautious, slow, or backing away and circling to much. Like a chess match, any wrong move or not having a variety of plans to change up, will cost a fighter.