I understand that flags are very important to Americans, and that they carry immense symbolism and also the weight of recent history .... so I don't think I really know enough about the South etc to comment on the use of the confederate flag.
The wider issue of exactly what the confederate flag means to people is enormously complex. Some see it as a vital part of their heritage, some see it as a symbol of rebellion, others see it as representing slavers. Those people will ALWAYS see it as they see it now.
It's like the Stars and Stripes .... Americans are very protective and passionate about their flag, but some Pakistani in Baluchistan will see it as representing something very different.
However, in the context of the recent shooting, I don't see any clear linkage with the confederate flag, apart from that he was photographed with one. He was also photographed wearing a Golds Gym t shirt and nobody is saying that should be banned?
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No version of the Confederate flag EVER EVER EVER EVER flew on the deck of a slave trader ship...those flew American flags.
Sure the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia has been co-opted by some hateful groups but none of them the actual Confederate States.
Here's some perspective.
....so yeah, there's that
Also it's fucking typical for the news to turn their focus from "Aww what a horrible tragedy, those poor families" and "What strength, peace, and community Charleston and the whole of South Carolina has shown in the face of this horrible event!" to ...."Hey! Look at that flag! It's EEEEEVIL!!!!!"
Fucking news twats....all about the ratings never about results.
I think they were very disappointed that there were no riots and that professional protesters were told to "go home"
I actually agree. Mainstream media is helping to detract by injecting the confederate flag. I am no fan of it, but can't see how that caused that sad soul to do what he did.
I'm at the Amtrak station right now...so I'm forced to watch CNN...they are acting as if this makes Donald Trump qualified....he is responding to the (tough) question, which is the flag.
Wrong question and CNN is straight up in the wrong.
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
It's not just CNN, it's everywhere....and guess what's next?
GUN CONTROL!!!
For fucks sake....the media are just ratings addicts and they want to play to the folks who know about HALF of a thing, not the entirety of a thing, but just sort of grasp half an idea, but are willing to buy into it 100% and defend their stance to the death! Prove them absolutely 100% wrong, and they'll double down on their view even harder!
I'd love to see a flag that doesn't carry with it some unfortunate past. It's a symbol, and like George Carlin said, "I leave symbols for the symbol-minded."
It's amazing that after this massacre, THIS is what people are upset about. It's a symbol, like a word. It has absolutely no meaning other than what you want it to mean. It's the ideas and views they should be worried about. Some people are racist, they don't like people of other races and they treat other races like crap - how is banning the confederate flag or the N-word going to change that? They're still going to feel the same way.
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