Chisora v Ustinov July 11th Manchester

[Dark Lord Al]

The best part of the interview - for as long as I listened - was Fury speaking about Joshua-Johnson - "Johnson was probably paid a few extra dollars to take a dive, unless Joshua hits 5-X harder than all us other heavyweights then something fishy went on there."

Which would suggest he/team Fury couldn't put a dent in Johnson when sparring and were shocked that Joshua whooped him with such ease.

Dont forget Fury has sparred with Joshua so he knows what he punches like.

Much like he knows what Price punches like. Two of the supposed biggest punchers in the world and neither dropped Fury who has a supposed glass jaw.

In Tyson's own words - "Joshua beat me up in sparring." And this was when Joshua was an amateur kid with just 20 fights under his belt. He's a serious bad man now.

bet he regrets saying that now

Doubt that very much. When has Fury ever taken himself or anything seriously

I have read an account of what happened and it was messy. Lots of tying up. Dont let Tysons demeanour or even body shape fool you ges a serious fighter. If he was so shit and his chin was so bad wouldnt it have been an inexperienced 17 year old Fury who hit the deck in their amateur fight and not Price?

Also, Wlad has invited Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Parker and probably some other young heavies for sparring but when Tyson took himself to Steward in Detroit, Steward invited him to a camp and despite Tyson asking Wlad to spar Wlad refused!

Fury has been matched very carefully , Johnson , Chisora , have both been beaten comfortably by others and quicker than fury could beat them.
Fury gets his shot next , so we will see how he does against Wlad.

shame Haye shit himself

Only Haye knows the reason he pulled out twice , however this doesn't go down as a career achievement for fury, the fight never happened.

[ross]

The best part of the interview - for as long as I listened - was Fury speaking about Joshua-Johnson - "Johnson was probably paid a few extra dollars to take a dive, unless Joshua hits 5-X harder than all us other heavyweights then something fishy went on there."

Which would suggest he/team Fury couldn't put a dent in Johnson when sparring and were shocked that Joshua whooped him with such ease.

Dont forget Fury has sparred with Joshua so he knows what he punches like.

Much like he knows what Price punches like. Two of the supposed biggest punchers in the world and neither dropped Fury who has a supposed glass jaw.

In Tyson's own words - "Joshua beat me up in sparring." And this was when Joshua was an amateur kid with just 20 fights under his belt. He's a serious bad man now.

bet he regrets saying that now

Doubt that very much. When has Fury ever taken himself or anything seriously

I have read an account of what happened and it was messy. Lots of tying up. Dont let Tysons demeanour or even body shape fool you ges a serious fighter. If he was so shit and his chin was so bad wouldnt it have been an inexperienced 17 year old Fury who hit the deck in their amateur fight and not Price?

Also, Wlad has invited Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Parker and probably some other young heavies for sparring but when Tyson took himself to Steward in Detroit, Steward invited him to a camp and despite Tyson asking Wlad to spar Wlad refused!

Fury has been matched very carefully , Johnson , Chisora , have both been beaten comfortably by others and quicker than fury could beat them.
Fury gets his shot next , so we will see how he does against Wlad.

shame Haye shit himself

Only Haye knows the reason he pulled out twice , however this doesn't go down as a career achievement for fury, the fight never happened.

Never said it was. Im pointing out its unfair to criticise his opposition when he tried twice to make a fight with someone who some people regard as very dangerous.

Also, criticise Chisora as an opponent but thats Hayes best win and Fury faced him when he was unbeaten.

[Fenster]

This fight isn't even happening. Chisora fighting on the card but not against the giant

[Fenster]

It's well known that Wlad spars young fighters who he sees as possible future opponents. Scouting mission. The fact he wasn't interested in Fury must mean he thought he was toilet.

Maybe that will come back to haunt him.

[Dark Lord Al]

The best part of the interview - for as long as I listened - was Fury speaking about Joshua-Johnson - "Johnson was probably paid a few extra dollars to take a dive, unless Joshua hits 5-X harder than all us other heavyweights then something fishy went on there."

Which would suggest he/team Fury couldn't put a dent in Johnson when sparring and were shocked that Joshua whooped him with such ease.

Dont forget Fury has sparred with Joshua so he knows what he punches like.




Much like he knows what Price punches like. Two of the supposed biggest punchers in the world and neither dropped Fury who has a supposed glass jaw.

In Tyson's own words - "Joshua beat me up in sparring." And this was when Joshua was an amateur kid with just 20 fights under his belt. He's a serious bad man now.

bet he regrets saying that now

Doubt that very much. When has Fury ever taken himself or anything seriously

I have read an account of what happened and it was messy. Lots of tying up. Dont let Tysons demeanour or even body shape fool you ges a serious fighter. If he was so shit and his chin was so bad wouldnt it have been an inexperienced 17 year old Fury who hit the deck in their amateur fight and not Price?

Also, Wlad has invited Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Parker and probably some other young heavies for sparring but when Tyson took himself to Steward in Detroit, Steward invited him to a camp and despite Tyson asking Wlad to spar Wlad refused!

Fury has been matched very carefully , Johnson , Chisora , have both been beaten comfortably by others and quicker than fury could beat them.
Fury gets his shot next , so we will see how he does against Wlad.

shame Haye shit himself

Only Haye knows the reason he pulled out twice , however this doesn't go down as a career achievement for fury, the fight never happened.

Never said it was. Im pointing out its unfair to criticise his opposition when he tried twice to make a fight with someone who some people regard as very dangerous.

Also, criticise Chisora as an opponent but thats Hayes best win and Fury faced him when he was unbeaten.

Yes and then fought him again after haye had KOED him ,so what's your point ?
Also I think haye may consider his win over Ruiz as his best win as he won a belt.
Remember Ruiz was a younger man than Wlad

[ross]

The best part of the interview - for as long as I listened - was Fury speaking about Joshua-Johnson - "Johnson was probably paid a few extra dollars to take a dive, unless Joshua hits 5-X harder than all us other heavyweights then something fishy went on there."

Which would suggest he/team Fury couldn't put a dent in Johnson when sparring and were shocked that Joshua whooped him with such ease.

Dont forget Fury has sparred with Joshua so he knows what he punches like.




Much like he knows what Price punches like. Two of the supposed biggest punchers in the world and neither dropped Fury who has a supposed glass jaw.

In Tyson's own words - "Joshua beat me up in sparring." And this was when Joshua was an amateur kid with just 20 fights under his belt. He's a serious bad man now.

bet he regrets saying that now

Doubt that very much. When has Fury ever taken himself or anything seriously

I have read an account of what happened and it was messy. Lots of tying up. Dont let Tysons demeanour or even body shape fool you ges a serious fighter. If he was so shit and his chin was so bad wouldnt it have been an inexperienced 17 year old Fury who hit the deck in their amateur fight and not Price?

Also, Wlad has invited Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Parker and probably some other young heavies for sparring but when Tyson took himself to Steward in Detroit, Steward invited him to a camp and despite Tyson asking Wlad to spar Wlad refused!

Fury has been matched very carefully , Johnson , Chisora , have both been beaten comfortably by others and quicker than fury could beat them.
Fury gets his shot next , so we will see how he does against Wlad.

shame Haye shit himself

Only Haye knows the reason he pulled out twice , however this doesn't go down as a career achievement for fury, the fight never happened.

Never said it was. Im pointing out its unfair to criticise his opposition when he tried twice to make a fight with someone who some people regard as very dangerous.

Also, criticise Chisora as an opponent but thats Hayes best win and Fury faced him when he was unbeaten.

Yes and then fought him again after haye had KOED him ,so what's your point ?
Also I think haye may consider his win over Ruiz as his best win as he won a belt.
Remember Ruiz was a younger man than Wlad

Ruiz had 8 losses when Haye fought him hahaha! You lot talk some shit!

The only reason Fury fought Chisora is because of Haye fucking him around Oh and he had the mandatory position to fight for.

[erics44]

The best part of the interview - for as long as I listened - was Fury speaking about Joshua-Johnson - "Johnson was probably paid a few extra dollars to take a dive, unless Joshua hits 5-X harder than all us other heavyweights then something fishy went on there."

Which would suggest he/team Fury couldn't put a dent in Johnson when sparring and were shocked that Joshua whooped him with such ease.

Dont forget Fury has sparred with Joshua so he knows what he punches like.




Much like he knows what Price punches like. Two of the supposed biggest punchers in the world and neither dropped Fury who has a supposed glass jaw.

In Tyson's own words - "Joshua beat me up in sparring." And this was when Joshua was an amateur kid with just 20 fights under his belt. He's a serious bad man now.

bet he regrets saying that now

Doubt that very much. When has Fury ever taken himself or anything seriously

I have read an account of what happened and it was messy. Lots of tying up. Dont let Tysons demeanour or even body shape fool you ges a serious fighter. If he was so shit and his chin was so bad wouldnt it have been an inexperienced 17 year old Fury who hit the deck in their amateur fight and not Price?

Also, Wlad has invited Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Parker and probably some other young heavies for sparring but when Tyson took himself to Steward in Detroit, Steward invited him to a camp and despite Tyson asking Wlad to spar Wlad refused!

Fury has been matched very carefully , Johnson , Chisora , have both been beaten comfortably by others and quicker than fury could beat them.
Fury gets his shot next , so we will see how he does against Wlad.

shame Haye shit himself

Only Haye knows the reason he pulled out twice , however this doesn't go down as a career achievement for fury, the fight never happened.

Never said it was. Im pointing out its unfair to criticise his opposition when he tried twice to make a fight with someone who some people regard as very dangerous.

Also, criticise Chisora as an opponent but thats Hayes best win and Fury faced him when he was unbeaten.

Yes and then fought him again after haye had KOED him ,so what's your point ?
Also I think haye may consider his win over Ruiz as his best win as he won a belt.
Remember Ruiz was a younger man than Wlad

Ruiz had 8 losses when Haye fought him hahaha! You lot talk some shit!

The only reason Fury fought Chisora is because of Haye fucking him around Oh and he had the mandatory position to fight for.

Chisora definately isnt hayes best win

chisora is however furys best win, or is it cunningham?

[ross]

Chisora would beat everyone else that Haye beat and everyone knows that. Hayes opponents were shite. His whole career was based on Wlad losing to Sanders and thinking all he needed was to be in the same ring and hed do the same.

If Chisora fought Valuev he also would have won a world title.

Chisora isnt a bad fighter. He gave Haye a competative fight. Fury handled him without breaking sweat. He gives everyone a tough night including Wlad which is why he pulled out of two scheduled fights with him.

Chisora might not beat everyone he fights but he makes everyone fight apart from Fury.

[Primo Carnera]

Chisora would beat everyone else that Haye beat and everyone knows that. Hayes opponents were shite. His whole career was based on Wlad losing to Sanders and thinking all he needed was to be in the same ring and hed do the same.

If Chisora fought Valuev he also would have won a world title.

Chisora isnt a bad fighter. He gave Haye a competative fight. Fury handled him without breaking sweat. He gives everyone a tough night including Wlad which is why he pulled out of two scheduled fights with him.

Chisora might not beat everyone he fights but he makes everyone fight apart from Fury.

Hang on a minute . I didn't want to go down this road , but no offence Ross, that last post is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard in my life!
"Chisora would've beat everyone Haye beat" - how the fuck do you work that out? Who has Chisora actually beat ? Malik Scott! Watch the fight , Chisora lost virtually every fucking round and Scott got tagged and mistimed getting up , and was up on 9 - 9 and a half. Who else has Chisora beat! The guy is a repeat loser.
"Chisora would've beaten Valuev!" How for fuck sake, Chisora doesn't throw anywhere near enough punches. Against Fury, he was a walking punchbag. And Valuev was a genuine World Champion and the way you talk when the Chisora's and Fury's of this world have never won a fight at that level is disrespectful to say the least.
"He gave Haye a competitive fight" Haye hammered him and fucking knocked him out!
Going on Chisora's last fight, he should retire or he will get seriously hurt, he is finished. The only fight I see for him is a final payday against Joshua to get another KO on Joshua's belt along with a name albeit shot fighter.
You cannot say that Fury's record stands up to anywhere near Haye's when it comes to list of opponents.
Now Fury may well beat Klitschko or he may well get beat but do better than Haye did, but so fucking what !
Based on what we have seen, Fury hasn't really beaten anyone. We all know you love Fury, and good luck to you and him, but please a little bit of rationale wouldn't go a miss.