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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

He meant chased down as in pursued the fight, for fucks sake

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

He meant chased down as in pursued the fight, for fucks sake

Ok then, ill revise my reply.

Cunningham would not give the rewards that Wlad would and Cunningham had just knocked out Huck and scared Haye up a weight.

He thought he could chin Wlad quick like Sanders did. His whole career was based off of watching that fight and trying to get Wlad which is why he has no interest in fighting any other good heavies that dont have multiple losses which is why he avoided Tyson.

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Right, because it was clearly semantics Cunningham was a very good fighter, and he would have certainly been a test for Haye at cruiserweight, but that's about the only substance to what you are saying and nobody is arguing it. You are just making up rubbish to make Tyson Fury look slightly better in your own estimation, which is already infallible.

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

He meant chased down as in pursued the fight, for fucks sake

Ok then, ill revise my reply.

Cunningham would not give the rewards that Wlad would and Cunningham had just knocked out Huck and scared Haye up a weight.

He thought he could chin Wlad quick like Sanders did. His whole career was based off of watching that fight and trying to get Wlad which is why he has no interest in fighting any other good heavies that dont have multiple losses which is why he avoided Tyson.

Fair play Ross, you are a fucking dreamer. People come up with facts and you counter with unsubstantiated opinions.
1. When "Cunningham called out Haye", Haye had 3 belts, Cunningham 1. That makes Haye the "A" side if you like. As was already stated , he was always moving up because that's where're the money was. Cunningham can call out Haye as much as he likes, but he wouldn't have come here to fight Haye. Do you think Haye would delay stepping up to fight Cunningham in the States for shit money?
Now, while you're mulling that one over, please explain that according to your logic of Haye ducking fighters, how we should see Fury dropping out ;
1. Versus Pulev for a European title and Mandatory World Title position.
2. Versus David Price for the British title in order to fight a 40 year old taxi driver for the Irish HW title!!!!
Answers on a postcard please or online at www.ilovetysonandfuckthefacts.com!

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Fury avoided neither.

The following is from Peter Fury and Maloney nor Price have ever denied the following.

"It is a fact that Golem was offered £125,000 by Mick Hennessy to box Tyson on Channel 5. Golem declined this offer quoting the fight would have to go on Sky TV, only to find out later that not only did he refuse the fight with Price, the reason he gave regarding Sky was false as he never actually had a deal with Sky.

He screwed that deal up and lied to the public and us with his bogus Sky deal! Then we hear Golem spouting about 'Chicken Tyson' refuses to fight etc, when the fact is he lost his sky deal and now he's got Price fighting on BoxNation! Whereby if Golem would have taken the offer, the Price fight would have gone on terrestrial TV and Price would have been paid well and the rest history."

Fury's Trainer Rips Maloney Over Past David Price Talks - Boxing News

As for Pulev. How is being offered millions to fight a supposed better, more dangerous and higher profile fighter avoiding Price? Thats like saying Mayweather avoided Khan by fighting Pacquiao!!

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Fury avoided neither.

The following is from Peter Fury and Maloney nor Price have ever denied the following.

"It is a fact that Golem was offered £125,000 by Mick Hennessy to box Tyson on Channel 5. Golem declined this offer quoting the fight would have to go on Sky TV, only to find out later that not only did he refuse the fight with Price, the reason he gave regarding Sky was false as he never actually had a deal with Sky.

He screwed that deal up and lied to the public and us with his bogus Sky deal! Then we hear Golem spouting about 'Chicken Tyson' refuses to fight etc, when the fact is he lost his sky deal and now he's got Price fighting on BoxNation! Whereby if Golem would have taken the offer, the Price fight would have gone on terrestrial TV and Price would have been paid well and the rest history."

Fury's Trainer Rips Maloney Over Past David Price Talks - Boxing News

As for Pulev. How is being offered millions to fight a supposed better, more dangerous and higher profile fighter avoiding Price? Thats like saying Mayweather avoided Khan by fighting Pacquiao!!

boxing fans use the word ducking every time either - a fight they want to happen doesnt - or they are trying to discredit a fighter they dont like

do i think Fury ducked Price? i think fury and his team felt that it was too soon for that fight and a loss to price at that stage would have been very difficult to return from, fury probably would have been nowhere near where he is now if he had have been beaten off price

and incidentally, i think price would have beaten every fighter fury has fought, i dont neccessarily think he would beat fury tho

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Firstly ,you still copying and pasting that Golem bollocks, you did that months ago. So all we have is Peter Fury's version of events. No facts. It was for a British title and Price was the higher rated fighter, so it's not peter Fury or fat Mick's place to start offering Price £125k. If it don't get decided , it goes to purse bids, only it never did it? Why? Because Tyson chose to take on an old man for the "to be sure, leprechaun title!"
He dropped out of the Pulev fight because a.) there was massive money at stake to fight Haye. That's fair enough, but when it goes pear shaped, don't start crying and fucking moaning that Haye is a chicken pussy! He made a choice, it didn't work out, TOUGH FUCKING SHIT!
The other reason he took it was that if he lost to Pulev (and at the time, he would've been the underdog.) it would be a difficult marketing job to get him back. However, if he had lost to Haye, he would've banked a load of cash and he was the underdog anyway.
I'm sure he thought he could beat Haye , but he would've been a wide outsider.
The fact remains, if he thought he could beat Pulev, do it , take the Euro title, mandatory for the World and the Haye fight would always be there, only next time for more money.
Perhaps he wasn't sure eh?
Oh, and btw, it's "Ms" Golem to you! 😀

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Old man Rogan?

Hes younger than Harrison (also beat Harrison), Skelton and Thompson!

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Fury avoided neither.

The following is from Peter Fury and Maloney nor Price have ever denied the following.

"It is a fact that Golem was offered £125,000 by Mick Hennessy to box Tyson on Channel 5. Golem declined this offer quoting the fight would have to go on Sky TV, only to find out later that not only did he refuse the fight with Price, the reason he gave regarding Sky was false as he never actually had a deal with Sky.

He screwed that deal up and lied to the public and us with his bogus Sky deal! Then we hear Golem spouting about 'Chicken Tyson' refuses to fight etc, when the fact is he lost his sky deal and now he's got Price fighting on BoxNation! Whereby if Golem would have taken the offer, the Price fight would have gone on terrestrial TV and Price would have been paid well and the rest history."

Fury's Trainer Rips Maloney Over Past David Price Talks - Boxing News

As for Pulev. How is being offered millions to fight a supposed better, more dangerous and higher profile fighter avoiding Price? Thats like saying Mayweather avoided Khan by fighting Pacquiao!!

Is that what Haye did when he ducked Cunningham? Moved up, had one tune up fight at the weight and then won a world title on sky PPV?