Do you support building a Wall to stop illegals?

[Beanz]

keep them out

What difference does it make to you anyway ? I didn't think you were planning on returning?

So it doesn't make a difference to YOU that people are:
0. breaking the law and sneaking illegally into the US/UK?
1. paying smugglers who prey on the poor?
2. risking their lives and the lives of their children by possibly being shot dead by the US Border Patrol?
3. damaging the economy in myriad ways by working illegally?



My return to the US (or not) has zero connection to having an opinion on the various harmful and negative effects of illegal immigration.

Cheers

0. The Us and the UK are not interchangeable however much you would like to dumb down the argument. We are an Island but also part of Europe, which is quite different from the border in the US.
1. You were just telling us in the other thread that most illegal immigrants were not poor, and yet you want to pretend that people who you referred to as lice ridden, prostitutes and drug dealers are now the object of your concern and actually the ones being preyed on ?
2. Poor people are risking their lives by staying where they are - In the UK you risk being hunted by Tories. If you want to become an apologist for the American state system then that is your call.
3. The economy is a farcical system set up to enrich fraudulent twats at the top of the tree but if you want to believe fairy stories then nothing I say is going to change your mind. The system is already fucked. You sound like someone eager to protect your own privilege, even if that means denying opportunities to others. It is only by accident of birth that you were granted citizenship anyway and as you keep reminding us being patriotic is dumb. Unless it's you getting on your high horse and sucking up to the xenophobic tendencies of others.

Your return to the US has everything to do with how relevant your opinion is and to pretend otherwise is just being intellectually dishonest.

[brocktonblockbust]

keep them out

What difference does it make to you anyway ? I didn't think you were planning on returning?

So it doesn't make a difference to YOU that people are:
0. breaking the law and sneaking illegally into the US/UK?
1. paying smugglers who prey on the poor?
2. risking their lives and the lives of their children by possibly being shot dead by the US Border Patrol?
3. damaging the economy in myriad ways by working illegally?



My return to the US (or not) has zero connection to having an opinion on the various harmful and negative effects of illegal immigration.

Cheers

0. The Us and the UK are not interchangeable however much you would like to dumb down the argument. We are an Island but also part of Europe, which is quite different from the border in the US.
1. You were just telling us in the other thread that most illegal immigrants were not poor, and yet you want to pretend that people who you referred to as lice ridden, prostitutes and drug dealers are now the object of your concern and actually the ones being preyed on ?
2. Poor people are risking their lives by staying where they are - In the UK you risk being hunted by Tories. If you want to become an apologist for the American state system then that is your call.
3. The economy is a farcical system set up to enrich fraudulent twats at the top of the tree but if you want to believe fairy stories then nothing I say is going to change your mind. The system is already fucked. You sound like someone eager to protect your own privilege, even if that means denying opportunities to others. It is only by accident of birth that you were granted citizenship anyway and as you keep reminding us being patriotic is dumb. Unless it's you getting on your high horse and sucking up to the xenophobic tendencies of others.

Your return to the US has everything to do with how relevant your opinion is and to pretend otherwise is just being intellectually dishonest.

0. Read the OP it says a wall on the US/mexican border. I didnt say to build a wall on your island, however much you want to pretend that point was relevant in any way, shape or form.
1. mexicans who sneak into America are dirt poor and dirty as well. You're sadly confused.
2.poor people in the UK....who even mentioned them? Hallucinating again, hmmm? again, read the OP, its about illegal Mexican immi to the US, not poor people in the UK. Really, you need reading comprehension lessons.
3. A person's return to any place is utterly irrelevant to their views on various topics in the world. To try and link them is a sign of your tremendous paranoia and wanna-be scholarship. I have never witnessed such an inaccurate and misguided interpretation of arguments as the ones you put forth (or shall I say PUKE forth).
4. You have been damaged by your experiences as a youth, and I pity you.
5. May the Lord Jesus Christ enter your HEART and heal you of your wounds, that the Holy Spirit may be on you and make you worthy to receive the Body of Christ Jesus.

[Beanflicker]

4. You have been damaged by your experiences as a youth, and I pity you.

[brocktonblockbust]

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.......that lil' Neon Worm moo-haha

[Beanz]

keep them out

What difference does it make to you anyway ? I didn't think you were planning on returning?

So it doesn't make a difference to YOU that people are:
0. breaking the law and sneaking illegally into the US/UK?
1. paying smugglers who prey on the poor?
2. risking their lives and the lives of their children by possibly being shot dead by the US Border Patrol?
3. damaging the economy in myriad ways by working illegally?



My return to the US (or not) has zero connection to having an opinion on the various harmful and negative effects of illegal immigration.

Cheers

0. The Us and the UK are not interchangeable however much you would like to dumb down the argument. We are an Island but also part of Europe, which is quite different from the border in the US.
1. You were just telling us in the other thread that most illegal immigrants were not poor, and yet you want to pretend that people who you referred to as lice ridden, prostitutes and drug dealers are now the object of your concern and actually the ones being preyed on ?
2. Poor people are risking their lives by staying where they are - In the UK you risk being hunted by Tories. If you want to become an apologist for the American state system then that is your call.
3. The economy is a farcical system set up to enrich fraudulent twats at the top of the tree but if you want to believe fairy stories then nothing I say is going to change your mind. The system is already fucked. You sound like someone eager to protect your own privilege, even if that means denying opportunities to others. It is only by accident of birth that you were granted citizenship anyway and as you keep reminding us being patriotic is dumb. Unless it's you getting on your high horse and sucking up to the xenophobic tendencies of others.

Your return to the US has everything to do with how relevant your opinion is and to pretend otherwise is just being intellectually dishonest.

0. Read the OP it says a wall on the US/mexican border. I didnt say to build a wall on your island, however much you want to pretend that point was relevant in any way, shape or form.
1. mexicans who sneak into America are dirt poor and dirty as well. You're sadly confused.
2.poor people in the UK....who even mentioned them? Hallucinating again, hmmm? again, read the OP, its about illegal Mexican immi to the US, not poor people in the UK. Really, you need reading comprehension lessons.
3. A person's return to any place is utterly irrelevant to their views on various topics in the world. To try and link them is a sign of your tremendous paranoia and wanna-be scholarship. I have never witnessed such an inaccurate and misguided interpretation of arguments as the ones you put forth (or shall I say PUKE forth).
4. You have been damaged by your experiences as a youth, and I pity you.
5. May the Lord Jesus Christ enter your HEART and heal you of your wounds, that the Holy Spirit may be on you and make you worthy to receive the Body of Christ Jesus.

You said

"So it doesn't make a difference to YOU that people are:
0. breaking the law and sneaking illegally into the US/UK?"

Points 4 and 5 are just vindictive, presumptuous and childish. I am not perfect but I am a good man. My experiences as a youth undoubtedly shaped me and made me determined never set myself up in Judgement of other people. I am very happy to have been exposed to many cultures, religious beliefs and different ways of living, but the one thing it really taught me was, never take your health, status in life or position of safety for granted, not everyone is as lucky and it could all change in a moment.

The paranoia and wannabe scholarship rubbish is all your own. Who wants to start a pissing contest with a bitter little fat man from Brooklyn ?

[Beanflicker]

Who wants to start a pissing contest with a bitter little fat man from Brooklyn ?

Shit is getting real!

[brocktonblockbust]

Who wants to start a pissing contest with a bitter little fat man from Brooklyn ?

Shit is getting real!

Hell yeah! Damn straight. Beanie Boy needs to visit Crown Heights with that chutzpah he has!

[Gandalf]

I think you have to control immigration. How many illegals does the US have? I've seen estimates that go really high. It's not fair on working class people who only really have the service sector to make a living from. It is terrible that countries are having a bad time economically, but for me there gets a point where I think 'You had 4 kids and now you are trying to send them to the promised land illegally?'. Should you have not considered how you would raise the children before you had them? That's where people start to call me a bit right wing and I can see that, but doesn't there reach a point where self responsibility begins and not giving a fuck ends? I hate the 'I could be dead tomorrow' attitude. That doesn't mean we should destroy the environment, breed rampantly, and eat too much. That's what I mean when I say family values. Choose your partner very carefully, court each other, see if you are compatible, save some money go from there. But people seem to just not consider these things in any real depth. The global population does not lie. 10 years down the line I am worried about where we will be, yet still babies will be being born at an incredible rate. There are going to be no jobs, robots will take over, yet people just want to think about now and having a good time with Mr Bad and really paying no consideration to later on. That is very irresponsible.

So really I am in the middle. I want controlled immigration, but above all else I would like a wiser human race. We can and should help others, but we should also point out where we are going wrong too.

[Gandalf]

On that topic, it is one of the things you notice in this part of the world. People have less children. The more educated people are and a society with fewer handouts means that you think very carefully before having children. You certainly don't have them out of wedlock with a drug dealer from up the street!