Do you support building a Wall to stop illegals?

[Gandalf]

That's not cool. What makes it worse is that they decided to do it illegally and not try legal avenues. If you want to go to a country, then at least go through the process like anyone else. It's really outrageous when you think about it like that. Just hop on a boat or airplane and start working? Sure, let's all do it! Once the government starts okaying it, then the entire system lacks any order. An ideal world is one without borders or discrimination, but you know that kind of world is where everyone is then free to be preyed upon equally. If there is anything that Europe has taught us it is that you shouldn't have open borders and you should maintain your own economic systems.

Edit: But anyone from Libya or Iraq should be granted a UK/US passport if they want one! I think when it comes to stuff like that, then morally you cannot really say otherwise.

[brocktonblockbust]

That's not cool. What makes it worse is that they decided to do it illegally and not try legal avenues. If you want to go to a country, then at least go through the process like anyone else. It's really outrageous when you think about it like that. Just hop on a boat or airplane and start working? Sure, let's all do it! Once the government starts okaying it, then the entire system lacks any order. An ideal world is one without borders or discrimination, but you know that kind of world is where everyone is then free to be preyed upon equally. If there is anything that Europe has taught us it is that you shouldn't have open borders and you should maintain your own economic systems.

Edit: But anyone from Libya or Iraq should be granted a UK/US passport if they want one! I think when it comes to stuff like that, then morally you cannot really say otherwise.

LOTS OF BODY-ODOR toothless fucks who stink CLAIM TO BE Syrian refugees but are NOT.

I am living in a country that has taken in 1 MILLION 600 THOUSAND SYRIAN REFUGEES IN THE PAST 3 YEARS. I have first-hand experince , I have been to one camp in Gaziantep, talked to the Turkish workers there, had a translator with me as well, and the fact is that UP TO 30% OF THESE 'REFUGEES" ARE FUCKING CHARLATAINS, THEY ARE NOT REFUGEES AT ALL, AND THEY ARE NOW DETAINED AND GETTING READY FOR DEPORTATION.......to somewhere!

Same with these filthy boat people who land in Italy (that fair country of my maternal ancestors---yes that is my DNA-Land up to 50% of it) they are NOT Libyan refuigees, they are frauds and phonies, they are central africans---HAVE YOU SEEN THE PHOTOS Those are not Libyans in any way shape or form, they are profiting on the EU's ASS-FUCKING LIBERALISM and getting onto these boats, and the white Europeans dont know the difference between Libyans and Ethiopians or Eritreans or Djibouti people, fuck the Italians are so stupid they call just about ALL AFRICANS "MAROCCHENI" implying like they all just come from Morocco.

[Gandalf]

I can understand not liking the situation and wanting things to improve, but I feel bad for boat people washing up on the shores of Greece. If they were really seeking out the land of honey, then they didn't pick a good time to go to Greece. The thing is Syria, Iraq and Libya, though far from perfect, were in pretty good shape until the Brits, Americans and Europeans got involved. I find it difficult to get angry with boat people when you consider what we have done. If you want to solve unchecked immigration, then there are a very small group of people that could easily be held to account. It's easy to tear apart poor, broken people, but there are very rich people that we seem to give a pass.

[Gandalf]

I am contradicting myself. I like order and routine and like controlled immigration, but then you factor in foreign policy causing chaos and my head starts to spin. Somebody build a wall and keep this topic out of my head. I cannot process it anymore!

[SlimTrae]

I am contradicting myself. I like order and routine and like controlled immigration, but then you factor in foreign policy causing chaos and my head starts to spin. Somebody build a wall and keep this topic out of my head. I cannot process it anymore!

Bingo!

I talk of Congressman Ron Paul. This topic is another reason why republicans rejected him. American foreign policy under both parties has Led to America's demise per Ron Paul.

Under Reagan, wanted what's called NAO aka north American accord. Bush Sr.failed to get it but Clinton the democrat did.ain't that some shit!? It's called NAFTA aka north American free trade agreement.

So fucked up---- that it allows our jobs to go to Mexico, while Mexicans leave them be and prefer to work our minimum wage Jobs than the NAFTA peasant pay in their home land.

The biggest buildings in America have Mexicans to Hondurans working as janitors cleaning people with name tags on their shirt. BECAUSE... they speak no English.
American laws will Lock up such workers...BUT Jack shit happens to the people that hired them.

News showing hard working Hispanics handcuffed on a curb, waiting to be deported, while the owners of said companies faces aren't shown.they are not handcuffed, locked up, so they are free to keep hiring non speaking English immigrants in illegal status.

REPUBLICANS say nothing about the businesses who hire them. While Democrats say give benefits to the illegals. FUCK THEM BOTH!!!!

In Wisconsin, a company called QuadGraphics owned by the late Harry Quadracci started printing magazines in the 1970s. Binder work $9.00 per hour Printing press $10.25 per hour.
Ringet and Wisconsin color press were the top 2 that paid such wages.
Today both companies have folded, QuadGraphics has about 4 factories here, while the majority of his workers are in Mexico.
Printing People magazine a nice chunk or percentage of Sports Illustrated...they can't even read what they are printing...oh and binders work today in Wisconsin is $8.50 per hour Printing press $9.75-10.00 if you have Pryor experience. 30 years later the pay has dropped.
And in West Allis a suburb? Majority white....watch Milwaukee transit bus in Hispanics to work the quad factory there.... not one bus in the inner city, so blacks and white have to take a bus to get to the Hispanic south side to catch a city ran bus that runs exclusively from the Latino neighborhoods to White West Allis...go figure...

[SlimTrae]

The busses that run exclusively from Latin neighborhoods to quad in the suburbs was approved when Scott Walker was ahead of Milwaukee county exec.



Ain't that some shit...

[Spicoli]

[walrus]

I am contradicting myself. I like order and routine and like controlled immigration, but then you factor in foreign policy causing chaos and my head starts to spin. Somebody build a wall and keep this topic out of my head. I cannot process it anymore!

Bingo!

I talk of Congressman Ron Paul. This topic is another reason why republicans rejected him. American foreign policy under both parties has Led to America's demise per Ron Paul.

Under Reagan, wanted what's called NAO aka north American accord. Bush Sr.failed to get it but Clinton the democrat did.ain't that some shit!? It's called NAFTA aka north American free trade agreement.

So fucked up---- that it allows our jobs to go to Mexico, while Mexicans leave them be and prefer to work our minimum wage Jobs than the NAFTA peasant pay in their home land.

The biggest buildings in America have Mexicans to Hondurans working as janitors cleaning people with name tags on their shirt. BECAUSE... they speak no English.
American laws will Lock up such workers...BUT Jack shit happens to the people that hired them.

News showing hard working Hispanics handcuffed on a curb, waiting to be deported, while the owners of said companies faces aren't shown.they are not handcuffed, locked up, so they are free to keep hiring non speaking English immigrants in illegal status.

REPUBLICANS say nothing about the businesses who hire them. While Democrats say give benefits to the illegals. FUCK THEM BOTH!!!!

In Wisconsin, a company called QuadGraphics owned by the late Harry Quadracci started printing magazines in the 1970s. Binder work $9.00 per hour Printing press $10.25 per hour.
Ringet and Wisconsin color press were the top 2 that paid such wages.
Today both companies have folded, QuadGraphics has about 4 factories here, while the majority of his workers are in Mexico.
Printing People magazine a nice chunk or percentage of Sports Illustrated...they can't even read what they are printing...oh and binders work today in Wisconsin is $8.50 per hour Printing press $9.75-10.00 if you have Pryor experience. 30 years later the pay has dropped.
And in West Allis a suburb? Majority white....watch Milwaukee transit bus in Hispanics to work the quad factory there.... not one bus in the inner city, so blacks and white have to take a bus to get to the Hispanic south side to catch a city ran bus that runs exclusively from the Latino neighborhoods to White West Allis...go figure...

And yet people who come here legally can become citizens and or permanent residents without issue.