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Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
The bout was a 'choreographed fraud'.Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Pre-Fight Backroom Discussions
1 > Sonny needed Money
2 > Sonny had his Boxing License yanked from 47 of the 50 States.
3 > The European Boxing Union had banned Sonny in September 1963.
4 > Sonny's handlers {The Nilon Group} wanted out.
5 > Sonny decided to 'play ball'.
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Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
Do not listen to bill's bull. The fight was real. Ali at his best.
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Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
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He will always be Muhammad Ali to me.In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
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Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
'Ass-Smoochio'He will always be Muhammad Ali to me.In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Are you aware, that he was also ........ 'Cassius X'
He will always be Cassius Clay to me......... See below
Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 07-01-2015 at 04:37 AM.
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Ali legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
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Hold on, you pulled 'a boner' there Mr. Lineal.Ali legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay started calling himself 'Cassius X' first. Stealing that moniker from Malcolm X.
He never legally changed his name at first.
Make a note of it.
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Cassius X is not stealing from Malcolm it was what was done by the group. Just as if someone uses Sugar in boxing does not mean they stole it from Ray Robinson.
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Did Ali legally change his name or not? I think you'll find the answer is yes.Hold on, you pulled 'a boner' there Mr. Lineal.Ali legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay started calling himself 'Cassius X' first. Stealing that moniker from Malcolm X.
He never legally changed his name at first.
Make a note of it.
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Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
His Mother,Did Ali legally change his name or not? I think you'll find the answer is yes.Hold on, you pulled 'a boner' there Mr. Lineal.Ali legally changed his name. Sure it was Clay then but it is Ali now. Check yourself. Don't correct others when you are continuously erroneous.In your 3rd sentence, you got the young fella's name wrong.
It was Cassius Clay on February 25, 1964.
Check the signature on the contract.............. Cassius Clay.
Cassius Clay started calling himself 'Cassius X' first. Stealing that moniker from Malcolm X.
He never legally changed his name at first.
Make a note of it.
Who brought Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. into this World, never accepted it.
That's good enough for me.
Odessa Grady Clay >
"Oh, Cassius has been calling himself all sorts of names since he was little. He wanted to be
Mickey Mantle, then Willie Mays. But he couldn't really play Baseball. He wasn't that good in
Sports, other than Boxing."
"He wanted to be Jack Johnson. Sometimes he wanted to be Jack Dempsey, and other
times it was Floyd Patterson. He always wrote those names on his sweatshirt when he
went to the boxing matches."
"For a while, he was calling himself 'Young Jack Johnson'. I thought that was funny,
because Jack Johnson was really flamboyant, and my son was so reserved and shy."
"But this name changing stuff. Oh it's just a phase to get some publicity. If it doesn't work,
he will come up with another name. But, no matter what, he will always be Cassius to me."
Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 07-05-2015 at 04:04 PM.
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