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The bible tells us homosexuality is wrong but also tells us not to judge.
Yeah it says a lot of stuff... a lot of nonsense!

It was written by men and passed down over so many years... I don't trust people now a days to give me the straight scoop, why the fuck would I put my faith in a bunch of assholes from thousands of years ago?

The world had a choice... and it chose the gays over the bible humpers! I'm sorry!
No, its fine, I don't press the belief of billions on others, just saying there is nothing wrong with living by a moral code brought to us by others. I think St Paul was one of the smartest men who ever lived, if you believe otherwise, fine by me.
I think the Pauline dogma that made the Christian church what it is now, completes missed the point of Jesus and what he said.
Sure, but being Jewish, which I think you said you are, how much do you really know about Christianty. I've read much on Judaism as I have much respect for it but I don't criticize it as I don't presume to know enough about it to judge it properly. Religious beliefs run too deep in People to speak on it as if it were a political belief. I am a Christian but believe the grace of God is in all religions. Paul wrote the majority of the new testament. To say his teachings changed the message of Christianity is contrary to Christianity itself. Still, your entitled to your opinion, I just feel one who never practiced a religion should not critique it's core beliefs.
My parents divorced when I was very young. So even though I am Jewish I was actually brought up in a Christian cult where I studied the Christian Bible in depth ,every day. Church 3 times a week. Home bible study, family bible study, personal bible study. Every single day. The one thing I did learn on leaving home and that cult, and then reacquainting myself with Judaism, very quickly was, that you can not possibly begin to understand Christianity without understanding the faith from which it's founder came.

And virtually no Christians do. It's almost laughably naive and fundamental that misunderstanding is. Not only are the myraid translations of the Bible wildly misleading, but the whole interpretation of those words are conducted through the tainted and foggy prism of Christian thinking. I can understand why many Christians think like this, because their views can be attributed to centuries of deliberate propagation of falsehoods by the Christian church, seeking to destroy the evidence that Jesus - The Jew - did not bring a new faith that invalidated, or made obsolete, his own.

This is apparent in the perpetual existence of Jews despite centuries of persecution and refutes the idea that Jews will, or must, eventually accept Jesus as their Messiah.

So for example, the Greek Paul, who grew up in Turkey, took Judaism with it's Universal elements and combined it with Pagan superstitions of the time - such as God coming to earth as a man. This created what we know today as Christianity; a distortion of Judaism, which once it became powerful enough, sought to eradicate Jews and the Jewish faith.