American confederate flag

[Beanz]

The Nazi flag is vile, but the more I learn I tend to find many flags conjure up similar connotations. Maybe the people wanting these flags are associating with different things. For instance, Beanz, if you wave a Union Jack it will likely be for positive reasons whilst I am seeing monarchy, occupation and war. In that sense we are both right based on what we perceive. I just struggle to get enraged on a topic like this and think US media and politics has once again gone slightly mad.

Not at all. Firstly you are assuming I am the type of person to be waving a Union Jack about. Not being ashamed of being English and being blindly patriotic, just like the Union Jack and the Swastika, are in no way interchangeable.

Back on topic though, a flag is still just a flag. I don't understand why it would upset people or have people wanting them banned. It is a very PC attitude to be having or even somewhat Nazi too! And I am not saying that is you, so don't get angry. That is more Master. Pretty hardcore. Not that he is a Nazi or anything like that.

Again I am not even remotely angry Jesus it's hard work having to climb a slope before people can even take a post as coming from a flat place.

So Back on topic. I agree it is a PC attitude to want to ban a flag but if you can not understand why it may upset people then that is simply because you have not been directly affected. If members of you own family had been killed by Nazi's, which is the case for many European Jews, than of course you would be upset. But again the Union Jack for all the behaviour under colonialism, is not a simple equivalent flag as the swastika. You can only argue that if you ignore huge historical facts, the same thing you are blaming blindly patriotic people of doing.

So while everybody should have the right to fly whatever flag they want they can not then be surprised if people treat them differently or draw what may even be false conclusions from this. To argue for free speech and then throw your toys out of the pram and insist any challenge or disagreement resulting from that is more important than the expression itself, is far more dangerous than any perceived PC like behavior.

It's a stupid argument. The oft repeated idea that people do not have the right to be offended, and if they do they must be ultra PC sheep or bed wetting liberals. It just reveals a pomposity and arrogance from the person insisting on the right to do so. It is tantamount to saying "My argument has no merit and so I will accuse you of being PC because that is my get out of jail card". It is as though treating people with respect and not being mysogonistic or racist or homophobic or ignorant was a much missed era. Rose tinted glasses where people pretend calling a black person a coon or nigger, or calling any Asian a Paki, or Gay people fagots, or Sikh's or arabs ragheads is supposedly the same as calling a spade a spade.

"Oh , I am not PC myself I call a spade a spade" as though we are all supposed to marvel at their rebelliousness and intransigence, unwilling as they are to leave the comfort of the stone age. That is real wet paper bag stuff. Someone so limp and childlike that they think not only is it clever to use terms that are stupid and offensive, but then to use the exact same argument that real sufferers of politically correct syndrome employ to try and shut down the debate.

And am not angry or addressing you. You dumb ass korean cracker