American confederate flag

[Beanflicker]

Context has completely been destroyed now a days by these righteously indignant morons.

Anyone who says "(Insert subject here) is NEVER funny" is a tool. ANYTHING can be funny, and nothing should be off the table IMO.

[IamInuit]

Seems odd to me that it took an act of brutal murder to give that flag its exit papers. Claiming it as some southern cross is like hanging a Nazi flag in a state in Israel and claiming its a symbol of National Socialism.

For the Hindus and Buddhists in India and other Asian countries, the swastika was an important symbol for many thousands of years and, to this day, the symbol can still be seen in abundance - on temples, buses, taxis, and on the cover of books. It was also used in Ancient Greece and can be found in the remains of the ancient city of Troy, which existed 4,000 years ago. The ancient Druids and the Celts also used the symbol, reflected in many artifacts that have been discovered. It was used by Nordic tribes and even early Christians used the Swastika as one of their symbols, including the Teutonic Knights, a German medieval military order, which became a purely religious Catholic Order.

Even with that history, you dont see neighbourhoods at least in the Western world dawning that symbol outside of the nutbar skinheads and white supremacists.

[walrus]

Seems odd to me that it took an act of brutal murder to give that flag its exit papers. Claiming it as some southern cross is like hanging a Nazi flag in a state in Israel and claiming its a symbol of National Socialism.

For the Hindus and Buddhists in India and other Asian countries, the swastika was an important symbol for many thousands of years and, to this day, the symbol can still be seen in abundance - on temples, buses, taxis, and on the cover of books. It was also used in Ancient Greece and can be found in the remains of the ancient city of Troy, which existed 4,000 years ago. The ancient Druids and the Celts also used the symbol, reflected in many artifacts that have been discovered. It was used by Nordic tribes and even early Christians used the Swastika as one of their symbols, including the Teutonic Knights, a German medieval military order, which became a purely religious Catholic Order.

Even with that history, you dont see neighbourhoods at least in the Western world dawning that symbol outside of the nutbar skinheads and white supremacists.

Oddly, it was a Christian church in his home town where Hitler first saw the symbol which would come to be called the swastika. It is still there today.

[Gandalf]

Seems odd to me that it took an act of brutal murder to give that flag its exit papers. Claiming it as some southern cross is like hanging a Nazi flag in a state in Israel and claiming its a symbol of National Socialism.

For the Hindus and Buddhists in India and other Asian countries, the swastika was an important symbol for many thousands of years and, to this day, the symbol can still be seen in abundance - on temples, buses, taxis, and on the cover of books. It was also used in Ancient Greece and can be found in the remains of the ancient city of Troy, which existed 4,000 years ago. The ancient Druids and the Celts also used the symbol, reflected in many artifacts that have been discovered. It was used by Nordic tribes and even early Christians used the Swastika as one of their symbols, including the Teutonic Knights, a German medieval military order, which became a purely religious Catholic Order.

Even with that history, you dont see neighbourhoods at least in the Western world dawning that symbol outside of the nutbar skinheads and white supremacists.

Oddly, it was a Christian church in his home town where Hitler first saw the symbol which would come to be called the swastika. It is still there today.

The Swastika is sometimes seen throughout Asian countries, I've seen it here often enough, and and is typically associated with Buddhism. It can can have peaceful meanings that go far beyond the over played Nazi card. If flipped suggest something different, but most are too ignorant to even realise which way it should go round and would likely start spitting something about 'evil' and 'ovens' and how disrespectful it all is. 'Look in the mirror, my rotund friend, and let's talk about respect' says the monk in a moment of non serenity. And he is not politically correct either! Holy cow, call CNN! As I say, a flag is just a flag. It's meaning is whatever the propaganda and yourself allow it to have. The rest should be up to you.

[IamInuit]

Seems odd to me that it took an act of brutal murder to give that flag its exit papers. Claiming it as some southern cross is like hanging a Nazi flag in a state in Israel and claiming its a symbol of National Socialism.

For the Hindus and Buddhists in India and other Asian countries, the swastika was an important symbol for many thousands of years and, to this day, the symbol can still be seen in abundance - on temples, buses, taxis, and on the cover of books. It was also used in Ancient Greece and can be found in the remains of the ancient city of Troy, which existed 4,000 years ago. The ancient Druids and the Celts also used the symbol, reflected in many artifacts that have been discovered. It was used by Nordic tribes and even early Christians used the Swastika as one of their symbols, including the Teutonic Knights, a German medieval military order, which became a purely religious Catholic Order.

Even with that history, you dont see neighbourhoods at least in the Western world dawning that symbol outside of the nutbar skinheads and white supremacists.

Oddly, it was a Christian church in his home town where Hitler first saw the symbol which would come to be called the swastika. It is still there today.

They dont parade it. That confederate flag represents the same thing as the Nazi flag minus the ovens.

[El Kabong]

Seems odd to me that it took an act of brutal murder to give that flag its exit papers. Claiming it as some southern cross is like hanging a Nazi flag in a state in Israel and claiming its a symbol of National Socialism.

For the Hindus and Buddhists in India and other Asian countries, the swastika was an important symbol for many thousands of years and, to this day, the symbol can still be seen in abundance - on temples, buses, taxis, and on the cover of books. It was also used in Ancient Greece and can be found in the remains of the ancient city of Troy, which existed 4,000 years ago. The ancient Druids and the Celts also used the symbol, reflected in many artifacts that have been discovered. It was used by Nordic tribes and even early Christians used the Swastika as one of their symbols, including the Teutonic Knights, a German medieval military order, which became a purely religious Catholic Order.

Even with that history, you dont see neighbourhoods at least in the Western world dawning that symbol outside of the nutbar skinheads and white supremacists.

Oddly, it was a Christian church in his home town where Hitler first saw the symbol which would come to be called the swastika. It is still there today.

They dont parade it. That confederate flag represents the same thing as the Nazi flag minus the ovens.

Alright then present the case for that line of thought. How is the Battle flag of Northern Virginia like the Swastika only minus the ovens?

[walrus]

No doubt the flag has negative connotations. George Wallace brought back into style in his state. I guess my take is very much influenced by me being a civil war buff. War wise, Robert E Lee was a brilliant tactician.. Stone wall Jackson, another great mind. When I see the flag I don't relate it at all to slavery or opression, again, that's just my take. The southern hicks I know who have the battle flag on their car do it to show their rebel anti government spirit. Still, perhaps flying it over a state capital is not appropriate. I encourage anyone able to visit the Gettysburg national park. It's an absolutely amazing place.

[El Kabong]

Rebel: a person who rises in opposition or armed resistance against an established government or ruler.

But also


(of a person) resist authority, control, or convention.
show or feel repugnance for or resistance to something


So by definition the "Rebel Flag" as it were, could be seen as anti-establishment, counter culture, etc. which was the case when Billy Idol was rocking it.



The Dukes of Hazzard, they were anti-establishment/anti-Boss Hog and corrupt Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane......but nah we can't have that see...we must comply

....that was in the 70's and 80's where people were using that flag as a political statement to be against the status quo.

[SlimTrae]

I guess my take is very much influenced by me being a civil war buff. War wise, Robert E Lee was a brilliant tactician.. Stone wall Jackson, another great mind. .

What is your take on how or why the Confederate lost? Feel free to educate me- as I am going from vague memory of what I thought to be the truth: The confederates were whipping the Yankees every which a way- so it was a blockade? The stopping of ships or fuel/sustenance that bled them out of resources? Meaning the Northerners never really beat them hand to hand combat wise?