The term "PC" should be renamed

[Gandalf]

It doesn't make much sense really. You say that an offensive flag is not okay, but then you say the Japanese flag is okay. How about saying that to victims of genocide in China, or people who have been occupied? Or the 'comfort' women of this country that still have a hard time being understood by the Japanese government? How can the Japanese flag not be equally as offensive to these people as the Nazi flag is to a Jew? How? Did the Nazi's all die in the war and the new flag erased the past? It was the same German people. The same Japanese people.

I reconcile that with the view that a flag is just a flag. However, you seem to be ascribing different rules to different flags. Okay, maybe Japan changed, but what about flags of occupation today? How would an Iraqi feel about a British flag? Not similar to the Nazi flag and the Japan flag? I'm not having a go, but if you don't want to offend you would have to ban a bloody lot of flags and there would be a lot less good comedy!

[Beanz]

I don't think you should ban anything, but if you can not see the difference between a flag that the German people themselves do not want to be associated with, and a flag that represents a country, then you are not really interested in having a debate.

[Beanz]

They twist language so that even dissent becomes terrorism, yet government creates terrorism!


So now that this is understood then perhaps some can see that many of those who turn simply disagreement or the ability to be offended into an automatic assumption that the person who voices this dissent, is being politically correct, are just as guilty of twisting language themsleves. Behind a keyboard people get a sense of immortality and invulnerability in which to admit a flaw in ones argument, a false supposition, or a error of judgement is seen as a weakness. I am as guilty of it as anybody else and it can soon become a war of egos. This though is a forum about boxing and martial arts, with some non boxing boards provided courtesy of the Guv up there behind the curtain twiddling his golden locks and scratching his goaty beard. It is not our own personal blog or website and so common courtesy dictates that restraint must sometimes be used. There has been a huge amount of leeway and freedom shown and though personal insults amongst the Brits are sometime missed by those not living here, seem to have been there since day one. It's banter, what blokes do.

That said the general public who end up here should not be alienated by huge sweeping generalisations and stuff that is offensive for the sake of it. There is a time and a place.


Right now you may throw a stool through the window and let the punch ups resume

[Gandalf]

That was a very good quote. Surely I don't need to break it down for you.

[walrus]

That was a very good quote. Surely I don't need to break it down for you.

That actually was a good quote, I didn't even notice it until it was in bold. Also, your theory is worthy of being on one of those conspiracy docs.

[Beanz]

That was a very good quote. Surely I don't need to break it down for you.

[TitoFan]

Nazi flags should be displayed in museums and shown in documentaries.
Other than that it has no practical, constructive use whatsoever.
Its being deployed in public places or private property where it can be seen by others and deemed offensive should be prohibited.
My opinion and I'll continue to stand by it.

Have a nice day.

[El Kabong]

Nazi flags should be displayed in museums and shown in documentaries.
Other than that it has no practical, constructive use whatsoever.
Its being deployed in public places or private property where it can be seen by others and deemed offensive should be prohibited.
My opinion and I'll continue to stand by it.

Have a nice day.

Alright well that leads me (just playing Devil's Advocate here) to ask....

"How much offense does something have to cause in order for it to be grounds for removal?"

....is there a way to quantify offense? Or is it qualitative and it's simply a matter of how many folks find it offensive?

Anyway, the Supreme Court precedent in 'The National Socialist Party of America vs Skokie, Illinois' flies in the face of your beliefs. I mean I would like for people to abide by the Golden Rule, but some folks are just assholes for no other reason than they want to be and they like everyone else in this country are allowed to express themselves.

Free Speech is something I just figure that people know and accept, but apparently that concept is more difficult than I thought....it does involve lots of patience, mental clarity, and a great deal of restraint.