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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.

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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

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    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.
    Ok you dont think he will win, I do.

    You have seen smaller, older, less skilled, less willed fighters get in there with Wlad happy to be there and let Wlad dictate the pace.

    What your about to see (unless Wlad pulls out) is a massive, fit, young, strong willed fighter who throws combinations, can move excellently for a heavy and pressure, push Wlad and break him down.
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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

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    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.
    Ok you dont think he will win, I do.

    You have seen smaller, older, less skilled, less willed fighters get in there with Wlad happy to be there and let Wlad dictate the pace.

    What your about to see (unless Wlad pulls out) is a massive, fit, young, strong willed fighter who throws combinations, can move excellently for a heavy and pressure, push Wlad and break him down.


    I hope you're right, as it would be great for boxing (see post # 31). Let's say you're correct on all counts regarding Fury. What about his chin, though? The little I've seen of Fury hasn't exactly given me a warm and fuzzy feeling that he can take a shot from Wlad. And make no mistake about it... at least one is bound to land. Then what? Also... is Fury prepared if Wlad decides Fury's too dangerous and tries to turn the fight into a mauling, foul-filled affair (see: Povetkin)? You talk about Fury's physical shape. The times I've seen him he looks like anything but. Has he really given the gym enough of his time to come in as fit as you say? Again... not against Fury. Just a little jaded when it comes to Wlad opponents. And this isn't even a compliment to Wlad.... just a huge critique at all past Wlad opponents.

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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

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    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.
    Ok you dont think he will win, I do.

    You have seen smaller, older, less skilled, less willed fighters get in there with Wlad happy to be there and let Wlad dictate the pace.

    What your about to see (unless Wlad pulls out) is a massive, fit, young, strong willed fighter who throws combinations, can move excellently for a heavy and pressure, push Wlad and break him down.


    I hope you're right, as it would be great for boxing (see post # 31). Let's say you're correct on all counts regarding Fury. What about his chin, though? The little I've seen of Fury hasn't exactly given me a warm and fuzzy feeling that he can take a shot from Wlad. And make no mistake about it... at least one is bound to land. Then what? Also... is Fury prepared if Wlad decides Fury's too dangerous and tries to turn the fight into a mauling, foul-filled affair (see: Povetkin)? You talk about Fury's physical shape. The times I've seen him he looks like anything but. Has he really given the gym enough of his time to come in as fit as you say? Again... not against Fury. Just a little jaded when it comes to Wlad opponents. And this isn't even a compliment to Wlad.... just a huge critique at all past Wlad opponents.
    I said nothing about Furys shape. I said he was very fit which he is. You are confusing bodybuilding with boxing like some others do. Look at Durans body shape as he moved up to fight in his natural bodyweight as what Fury does. Did he look ripped and shredded? No. Was he fit? Yes!

    As for Furys chin. Hes going to be much harder for Wlad to hit than Wlad is for Fury to hit and has Fury been knocked out? No. Has Wlad been knocked out? Yes! 3 times!! How many times has Wald been knocked down? 8!!?

    Haye was and is supposedly Wlads most dangerous opponent but how many times had he been knocked down prior to fighting Wlad! 6? Also how willing was Haye to fight Wlad with an injury compared to Fury?

    Ali got dropped hard and nearly stopped by 180lb Cooper and 190lb Sonny Banks and robbed a decision off Doug Jones. Does he beat the monster Sonny Liston?
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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

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    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.
    Ok you dont think he will win, I do.

    You have seen smaller, older, less skilled, less willed fighters get in there with Wlad happy to be there and let Wlad dictate the pace.

    What your about to see (unless Wlad pulls out) is a massive, fit, young, strong willed fighter who throws combinations, can move excellently for a heavy and pressure, push Wlad and break him down.


    I hope you're right, as it would be great for boxing (see post # 31). Let's say you're correct on all counts regarding Fury. What about his chin, though? The little I've seen of Fury hasn't exactly given me a warm and fuzzy feeling that he can take a shot from Wlad. And make no mistake about it... at least one is bound to land. Then what? Also... is Fury prepared if Wlad decides Fury's too dangerous and tries to turn the fight into a mauling, foul-filled affair (see: Povetkin)? You talk about Fury's physical shape. The times I've seen him he looks like anything but. Has he really given the gym enough of his time to come in as fit as you say? Again... not against Fury. Just a little jaded when it comes to Wlad opponents. And this isn't even a compliment to Wlad.... just a huge critique at all past Wlad opponents.
    I said nothing about Furys shape. I said he was very fit which he is. You are confusing bodybuilding with boxing like some others do. Look at Durans body shape as he moved up to fight in his natural bodyweight as what Fury does. Did he look ripped and shredded? No. Was he fit? Yes!

    As for Furys chin. Hes going to be much harder for Wlad to hit than Wlad is for Fury to hit and has Fury been knocked out? No. Has Wlad been knocked out? Yes! 3 times!! How many times has Wald been knocked down? 8!!?

    Haye was and is supposedly Wlads most dangerous opponent but how many times had he been knocked down prior to fighting Wlad! 6? Also how willing was Haye to fight Wlad with an injury compared to Fury?

    Ali got dropped hard and nearly stopped by 180lb Cooper and 190lb Sonny Banks and robbed a decision off Doug Jones. Does he beat the monster Sonny Liston?

    Not confusing body shape with "being in shape" at all. So does Fury have the stamina to go 12 rounds with Wlad if necessary? You didn't answer a very important question. What if Wlad decides to do a Povetkin on Fury? Is he prepared? Does he have an answer? Remember... post-Brewster Wlad learned how to do whatever.... WHATEVER... it takes to survive and win a fight. No matter how ugly it looks. Is Fury prepared for this? You didn't even answer my question on Fury's chin, choosing instead to say Fury is difficult to hit. Yes, Wlad has been knocked down. Then he's gotten back up and won the fight. Apparently the one doing the knocking down didn't have the wherewithal to finish the job. Will Fury? You mention Haye and he's one of the worst offenders as far as talking a lot of shit and then doing diddly squat to back up all that false bravado once he got in the ring.

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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

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    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.
    Ok you dont think he will win, I do.

    You have seen smaller, older, less skilled, less willed fighters get in there with Wlad happy to be there and let Wlad dictate the pace.

    What your about to see (unless Wlad pulls out) is a massive, fit, young, strong willed fighter who throws combinations, can move excellently for a heavy and pressure, push Wlad and break him down.


    I hope you're right, as it would be great for boxing (see post # 31). Let's say you're correct on all counts regarding Fury. What about his chin, though? The little I've seen of Fury hasn't exactly given me a warm and fuzzy feeling that he can take a shot from Wlad. And make no mistake about it... at least one is bound to land. Then what? Also... is Fury prepared if Wlad decides Fury's too dangerous and tries to turn the fight into a mauling, foul-filled affair (see: Povetkin)? You talk about Fury's physical shape. The times I've seen him he looks like anything but. Has he really given the gym enough of his time to come in as fit as you say? Again... not against Fury. Just a little jaded when it comes to Wlad opponents. And this isn't even a compliment to Wlad.... just a huge critique at all past Wlad opponents.
    I said nothing about Furys shape. I said he was very fit which he is. You are confusing bodybuilding with boxing like some others do. Look at Durans body shape as he moved up to fight in his natural bodyweight as what Fury does. Did he look ripped and shredded? No. Was he fit? Yes!

    As for Furys chin. Hes going to be much harder for Wlad to hit than Wlad is for Fury to hit and has Fury been knocked out? No. Has Wlad been knocked out? Yes! 3 times!! How many times has Wald been knocked down? 8!!?

    Haye was and is supposedly Wlads most dangerous opponent but how many times had he been knocked down prior to fighting Wlad! 6? Also how willing was Haye to fight Wlad with an injury compared to Fury?

    Ali got dropped hard and nearly stopped by 180lb Cooper and 190lb Sonny Banks and robbed a decision off Doug Jones. Does he beat the monster Sonny Liston?

    Not confusing body shape with "being in shape" at all. So does Fury have the stamina to go 12 rounds with Wlad if necessary? You didn't answer a very important question. What if Wlad decides to do a Povetkin on Fury? Is he prepared? Does he have an answer? Remember... post-Brewster Wlad learned how to do whatever.... WHATEVER... it takes to survive and win a fight. No matter how ugly it looks. Is Fury prepared for this? You didn't even answer my question on Fury's chin, choosing instead to say Fury is difficult to hit. Yes, Wlad has been knocked down. Then he's gotten back up and won the fight. Apparently the one doing the knocking down didn't have the wherewithal to finish the job. Will Fury? You mention Haye and he's one of the worst offenders as far as talking a lot of shit and then doing diddly squat to back up all that false bravado once he got in the ring.
    Wlad hasnt gotten off the floor to win every time at all!! Have you even watched his fights?

    Yes he can get away with leaning on Povetkin who is about 7" shorter than Tyson

    He cant lean on Tysons back, Tyson is the bigger man!

    Tysons chin is no worse than Wlads. Wlad shits it with a threat and holds and leans. Tyson is the first fighter hes faced that he wont be able to do that to and as for stamina Wlad hasnt been forced to fight 12 rounds yet. I think he tires midway from having to think amd move and avoid a beating.

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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

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    Ross you seem to have this me against the world attitude with respect to Fury. I don't think Fury will win, as it's been WAY too many challengers that have talked big, only to walk sheepishly into the ring and lay down for Wlad. I'd love nothing more than for someone to walk in hit Wlad in the mouth and see how Wlad reacts. He hasn't had that in many, many, many fights and it's about high time someone did just to see what happens. I've always thought Wilder has a better chance of upsetting Wlad than Fury does, but I watched his last fight and was not overly impressed. I honestly don't care who does it, as long as I see it sometime before Wlad retires.
    Ok you dont think he will win, I do.

    You have seen smaller, older, less skilled, less willed fighters get in there with Wlad happy to be there and let Wlad dictate the pace.

    What your about to see (unless Wlad pulls out) is a massive, fit, young, strong willed fighter who throws combinations, can move excellently for a heavy and pressure, push Wlad and break him down.


    I hope you're right, as it would be great for boxing (see post # 31). Let's say you're correct on all counts regarding Fury. What about his chin, though? The little I've seen of Fury hasn't exactly given me a warm and fuzzy feeling that he can take a shot from Wlad. And make no mistake about it... at least one is bound to land. Then what? Also... is Fury prepared if Wlad decides Fury's too dangerous and tries to turn the fight into a mauling, foul-filled affair (see: Povetkin)? You talk about Fury's physical shape. The times I've seen him he looks like anything but. Has he really given the gym enough of his time to come in as fit as you say? Again... not against Fury. Just a little jaded when it comes to Wlad opponents. And this isn't even a compliment to Wlad.... just a huge critique at all past Wlad opponents.
    I said nothing about Furys shape. I said he was very fit which he is. You are confusing bodybuilding with boxing like some others do. Look at Durans body shape as he moved up to fight in his natural bodyweight as what Fury does. Did he look ripped and shredded? No. Was he fit? Yes!

    As for Furys chin. Hes going to be much harder for Wlad to hit than Wlad is for Fury to hit and has Fury been knocked out? No. Has Wlad been knocked out? Yes! 3 times!! How many times has Wald been knocked down? 8!!?

    Haye was and is supposedly Wlads most dangerous opponent but how many times had he been knocked down prior to fighting Wlad! 6? Also how willing was Haye to fight Wlad with an injury compared to Fury?

    Ali got dropped hard and nearly stopped by 180lb Cooper and 190lb Sonny Banks and robbed a decision off Doug Jones. Does he beat the monster Sonny Liston?

    Not confusing body shape with "being in shape" at all. So does Fury have the stamina to go 12 rounds with Wlad if necessary? You didn't answer a very important question. What if Wlad decides to do a Povetkin on Fury? Is he prepared? Does he have an answer? Remember... post-Brewster Wlad learned how to do whatever.... WHATEVER... it takes to survive and win a fight. No matter how ugly it looks. Is Fury prepared for this? You didn't even answer my question on Fury's chin, choosing instead to say Fury is difficult to hit. Yes, Wlad has been knocked down. Then he's gotten back up and won the fight. Apparently the one doing the knocking down didn't have the wherewithal to finish the job. Will Fury? You mention Haye and he's one of the worst offenders as far as talking a lot of shit and then doing diddly squat to back up all that false bravado once he got in the ring.
    Wlad hasnt gotten off the floor to win every time at all!! Have you even watched his fights?

    Yes he can get away with leaning on Povetkin who is about 7" shorter than Tyson

    He cant lean on Tysons back, Tyson is the bigger man!

    Tysons chin is no worse than Wlads. Wlad shits it with a threat and holds and leans. Tyson is the first fighter hes faced that he wont be able to do that to and as for stamina Wlad hasnt been forced to fight 12 rounds yet. I think he tires midway from having to think amd move and avoid a beating.


    Once again we need a translator between us. Did I say he's (Wlad) gotten up from ALL his knockdowns?? Please don't make me spell things out. He got up against Sam Peter, who was considered a VERY dangerous opponent. (Probably the ONLY one who, unlike Haye, came to actually fight, not just talk shit BEFORE the fight).

    I like your enthusiasm for Fury...

    But I'll reserve my optimism for now until I see something that tells me this isn't the umpteenth rerun of the same old tired movie.

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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

    Good to see that everyone is over all of the reservations about Tyson Fury and we are all behind him....





    ....is what I wish I could have said, but as usual he seems to be more divisive than a bacon sandwich at a multi-faith conference brunch! I like the lad, I do think that Klitschko will have a bit more difficulty with him as he is tall but also has some boxing nous about him. I get that his cocky attitude doesn't sit well with everybody, but he's not the kind of braggart that seems to divide the American fans like Mayweather or Broner.

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    Default Re: Klitschko-Fury Set for October 24 in Dusseldorf, Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Good to see that everyone is over all of the reservations about Tyson Fury and we are all behind him....





    ....is what I wish I could have said, but as usual he seems to be more divisive than a bacon sandwich at a multi-faith conference brunch! I like the lad, I do think that Klitschko will have a bit more difficulty with him as he is tall but also has some boxing nous about him. I get that his cocky attitude doesn't sit well with everybody, but he's not the kind of braggart that seems to divide the American fans like Mayweather or Broner.
    With Fury you dont even get that unerlying arrogance of Ricky Hatton. He is a genuinely likable and funny person. He will embrace everyone and treat everyone the same and I think when he beats Klitschko hes going to be absolutely huge, a heavyweight people actually want to watch. Then you have a similar type of personality in Wilder to give the American audience something to give hope to and a hugefight between the two!

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