Would you support 7 day work weeks?

[Andre]

I can't speak for all unions in the US but the one I worked for one so politically charged it made me uncomfortable. Despite the unions own laws saying they would not use any union dues for political campaigns they openly did so. I saw so much raunchy stuff, in the end there main concern was there own self survival. During one meeting I attended the union boss referred to the sitting governor as Satan. The guy really made himself out to be an idiot. My brothers company actually ended up voting the union out after having it for a couple years. Of course I've heard of first hand positive experiences from People I know who work for union companies. Union have done a lot of good for a lot of people, they definitely helped in the formation of better labor laws during the early years of industry but they can do some funky stuff here in the US. The place I work for now is non union but I have to say they have an excellent human resource staff that goes out of its way to work out any issues. I'm not saying unions are all bad or unnecessary but if one were to familiarize one self with labor laws there is a lot of protection for workers already in place. If workers want to unionize, more power to them. I was very disappointed with the politics of the government union I worked for. I got a lump sum of money for being laid off even though I wasn't laid off, I was moved to a different department during layoffs. You would think I would be happy but it's money I didn't ask nor fight for.

Anyway, I went off topic with that money thing. Unions in the US can be a very strange beast.

Especially the Italian run garbage unions.

That still the case over there or am I 20 years behind here?

[Andre]

I support two holidays per year of 3 months each on a roster system.

[Kirkland Laing]

Socialist is not an evil word over here but over your side of the pond the word Liberal is frowned upon. You are so far to the right you could drop off the scale.

Socialist should be an evil word everywhere, but that's fine. The term "Liberal" has been coopted by the Democrat Party who ironically are some of the whiniest close minded bigots in the world. Given the REAL definition of the word and it's connotation of being for maximum individual freedoms, of course it's good....but you must understand the people in America who call themselves "liberal" are the same people who called themselves "Progressive" and those "Progressives" were and are horrible people and just like I said whiney, close minded, bigots.

Says the Conferderate flag defender. Yes Woti, liberals are the real bigots here. Idiot.

[Kirkland Laing]

Socialist is not an evil word over here but over your side of the pond the word Liberal is frowned upon. You are so far to the right you could drop off the scale.

Socialist should be an evil word everywhere, but that's fine. The term "Liberal" has been coopted by the Democrat Party who ironically are some of the whiniest close minded bigots in the world. Given the REAL definition of the word and it's connotation of being for maximum individual freedoms, of course it's good....but you must understand the people in America who call themselves "liberal" are the same people who called themselves "Progressive" and those "Progressives" were and are horrible people and just like I said whiney, close minded, bigots.

Right our Unions are no WAY LIKE YOURS, unions got holidays and fair pay and safe working conditions for it's members is that such a bad thing,
Fuck Lyle you are paranoid not everybody is a communist, your out frankly is you experience
with corrupted unions in YOUR side of the pond, Yep a strange out look indeed.

American unions aren't perfect but they're far better than they were. But you need to see them in the context of American institutions. It's not like union bosses are a bunch of crooks and the people running all the other big American institutions are a bunch of vestal virgins. Look at the politicians, the business leaders, the financial system and how it's all thoroughly corrupted. American unions look pretty good by comparison.

[El Kabong]

Says the Conferderate flag defender. Yes Woti, liberals are the real bigots here. Idiot.

It takes a smidge more than just calling someone an "idiot" to win an argument. Your post, however time constrained it is provides no point, no rebuttal, nothing at all really other than your opinion that I am an "idiot".

Am I?

Eppur si muove

[Kirkland Laing]

Says the Conferderate flag defender. Yes Woti, liberals are the real bigots here. Idiot.

It takes a smidge more than just calling someone an "idiot" to win an argument. Your post, however time constrained it is provides no point, no rebuttal, nothing at all really other than your opinion that I am an "idiot".

Am I?

Eppur si muove

You've spent years and thousands of posts proving beyond all reasonable doubt that you are an idiot. I could never do a better job of showing what a clown you are than you do yourself every day.

[El Kabong]

You've spent years and thousands of posts proving beyond all reasonable doubt that you are an idiot. I could never do a better job of showing what a clown you are than you do yourself every day.

....and yet you've come to this argument without a rebuttal, only insults.