floyd vs berto.......meh

[Master]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

[Beanflicker]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

[Master]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

Not $32 million worth.

[Ron Swanson]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

Not $32 million worth.

They've already turned a HUGE profit on that contract. It worked out better for them than they could have imagined. On PPVs alone they turned a profit but PPV weren't the point from Showtimes perspective.

[walrus]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

Not $32 million worth.

They've already turned a HUGE profit on that contract. It worked out better for them than they could have imagined. On PPVs alone they turned a profit but PPV weren't the point from Showtimes perspective.

@Ron Swanson did you find the numbers involved with what they made on the contract. I'm just curious. It is very interesting that a Floyd fight will be on network. Funny, his last fight was the highest asked for ppv and now we go for a free view. It will be interesting to see market shares for the fight. I think CBS is reporting they are pleased with the market shares they are getting with boxing events but when I talk sports at work or in public the majority of people I talk to still have no idea of the boxing world. I still pay for both HBO and Showtime primarily for boxing. Especially in Showtimes case, they very rarely have anything that piques my interest.

[Beanflicker]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

Not $32 million worth.

I don't know about that.

It'll be a 3 hour broadcast, they'll show the under card, they'll show a lot of teasers/filler material where they can cut to commercials every couple of minutes, and those commercial spots are going to be extremely valuable. They were charging 4.5 million for 30 second ad spaces during the Super Bowl. Floyd vs Berto is NOT the Super Bowl obviously, but their spots aren't going to be cheap. Then you have to figure in advertisers and sponsors of the event, advertising space on the actual ring, ect. Then you factor in ticket sales, broadcasting rights, ect. They'll profit off of this, no problem.

[ruthless rocco]

Cry babies

[beenKOed]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

It should be free, who is going to pay for Berto vs Floyd. I am not excited about this fight in any way at all. Are there any boxing fans out who just can't wait to see this fight?

[TitoFan]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

It should be free, who is going to pay for Berto vs Floyd. I am not excited about this fight in any way at all. Are there any boxing fans out who just can't wait to see this fight?

Yes there is. There's one on this very forum.

[Master]

Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.

The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.

I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.

It should be free, who is going to pay for Berto vs Floyd. I am not excited about this fight in any way at all. Are there any boxing fans out who just can't wait to see this fight?

Yes there is. There's one on this very forum.

He will not watch either but pretend he is interested.

[Beanflicker]

It should be free, who is going to pay for Berto vs Floyd. I am not excited about this fight in any way at all. Are there any boxing fans out who just can't wait to see this fight?

Love him or hate him, Floyd is the undisputed king of the boxing. He is one of the greatest boxing talents of all time.

If you have no interest in seeing the greatest athlete in your sport compete, you have no business calling yourself a fan of that sport. Period. FACT.

[J_Undisputed]

It should be free, who is going to pay for Berto vs Floyd. I am not excited about this fight in any way at all. Are there any boxing fans out who just can't wait to see this fight?

Love him or hate him, Floyd is the undisputed king of the boxing. He is one of the greatest boxing talents of all time.

If you have no interest in seeing the greatest athlete in your sport compete, you have no business calling yourself a fan of that sport. Period. FACT.

No offense, of course to you. I do value your opinion. Even though the fights free, I won't tune in for it. IamInuit is right, Floyds not about legacy or his warrior image; he's about money. Maybe he won't miss my +1 in the ratings or anyone else that decides to brush over this broadcast to start his send off with a big "F__K YOU" but I'm not gonna play party to building this egomaniacs stupidity or self image. First, because i can't consider what he does (pre fight demands for making his own set of rules, picking opponents regardless of ranking, barking like a pitbull during a promotion and then fighting like a chihuahua in the ring) as competing. Second, for as long as this has gone on, I can't consider him the greatest athlete in my sport. Greatest Self promoting personality maybe; Greatest sure bet yeah; or greatest technical boxer i'd agree too. The man admitted he doesnt have the passion for the sport, so why should i feel obligated to have the passion to watch him half @$$ it, so he can buy 5 more exotic cars for a weak performance that's been over built.

Its not history to me. I understand for people of our generation, it may be the best we have and to those who are reveling in it right now, by all means don't let me ruin it for you. To me, people that made history just made it. They didn't start redesigning and cutting corners half way through in order to ensure it so they could be paid marketing royalties after they pulled it off on technicalities. Which is exactly why this is being put on free tv -- to get the casual fans. They don't care about the hardcore fans. So this is geared towards getting casual fans who are convinced they are witnessing some kind of history to build these fights into superbowl like events for boxing where casual fans (with casual $$$) tune in no matter who's playing.

Just my opinion of course... and that's why I won't watch. Floyd/ his people and I just have a different idea of what Boxing should be. He obviously doesn't give a damn about anyone's opinion but his own, because it would cost him money.... and I don't care for the circus he's trying to redefine it as.... No one says we have to agree. How he (and others) play the game, kill traditions and mentors idiots like broner that will infest the sport ...is his business and what I choose to watch while he's doing it, is mine....

[Beanflicker]

Floyds not about legacy or his warrior image; he's about money.

I think it's so fucking stupid whenever this shit gets brought up. Like it's black and white - you're either TOTALLY selfless and in it completely for the art, or you could give a fuck about the art and you're 100% about the money.

No boxer in the history of the sport that falls into one or the other. Everyone wants to be the best, everyone wants to be champion, and EVERYONE WANTS TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THE POSSIBLY CAN! We are talking about PRIZE FIGHTING. Anyone who thinks differently is living in a fantasy world.

You tell me: was Sugar Ray Robinson not "about the money" when he was showing up on fight night and demanding the promoters pay him more or he wasn't going to fight? Boxing fans shit talk Floyd out of one side of their mouth, and praise SRR out the other, and it just shows how clueless people are.

I'll say it again, you can hate the guy, you can say he's a prick, but you can't take away the in-ring skill (which is second to none) and you can't take away 19 years of doing nothing but winning and shutting up the haters. And you're telling me Floyd doesn't have a legacy in the sport? How delusional can people be?

[ruthless rocco]

Jealousy... Plain and simple.

[J_Undisputed]

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Floyds not about legacy or his warrior image; he's about money.

I think it's so fucking stupid whenever this shit gets brought up. Like it's black and white - you're either TOTALLY selfless and in it completely for the art, or you could give a fuck about the art and you're 100% about the money.

No boxer in the history of the sport that falls into one or the other. Everyone wants to be the best, everyone wants to be champion, and EVERYONE WANTS TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THE POSSIBLY CAN! We are talking about PRIZE FIGHTING. Anyone who thinks differently is living in a fantasy world.

You tell me: was Sugar Ray Robinson not "about the money" when he was showing up on fight night and demanding the promoters pay him more or he wasn't going to fight? Boxing fans shit talk Floyd out of one side of their mouth, and praise SRR out the other, and it just shows how clueless people are.

I'll say it again, you can hate the guy, you can say he's a prick, but you can't take away the in-ring skill (which is second to none) and you can't take away 19 years of doing nothing but winning and shutting up the haters. And you're telling me Floyd doesn't have a legacy in the sport? How delusional can people be?

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Ok, maybe a bit of a miscue. My comment about Inuit being right about floyd being about the money is not my reason for not watching just a credit to Inuit for what he said in response to my earlier comment. My response to the money issue, I'm sure other if not every fighters in it for the money. What i'm saying is if you don't have the passion for it 32 mill is all the passion you need. If you handed 32mill to SRR to put someone on their ass.... I believe in the least, it would look like he was trying to put that opponent down. Floyd is not a one trick pony, he has an arsenal above and beyond that of everyone he fights according to most fighters... if 5% is all he needs to beat some of these guys, then he's happy and most wont demand more of him. I do. If you use %5 and get a close decision or what ifs, then you deserve whatever flack comes your way.

I was a floyd fan. I even have an autographed glove from he first started out. Its true, you cant erase 19 years of winning. As for shutting up haters. Haters will always find something to beef about so i dont really believe you will shut them all up. If he knocks someone out in 1 round, they'll say they could have been gone in half that time. As his careers gone on, hes picked up more detractors. For many its the money persona, for others its mistakes he's made in his life. For me, he demands all the money, all of the credit and for what he's capable of. He's only done half the work. As I said earlier, that won't my a difference to the stats people or the historians (His legacy is there). But it does make a difference in how the people who know what you were capable of, remember you. The worst part is the surge is detractors is his own doing because of all the attention he's drawn to himself. Like I said if the showtime/cbs people are happy to pay him for his bottom 5%, more power to them and him but i reserve my right to rake him over the coals for being a halfA$$er because i know hes capable of more.

Its like klitchsko getting no credit, simply because he's in better shape that most of the heavyweight class then on fight to fight basis. If all he had to do was show up and spar with them. its enough to win the fight. But he wont get credit for holding or just being in good shape as he would for punishing his opponent.