David Haye vs Sonny Liston

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Haye would get wiped away by a prime Liston, which as X said was not during the time he was champion.

That has to be the first time I've ever heard someone claim that a boxer's prime was BEFORE they became champ

It happens to fighters who never get the title opportunity like Archie Moore.

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Haye would get wiped away by a prime Liston, which as X said was not during the time he was champion.

That has to be the first time I've ever heard someone claim that a boxer's prime was BEFORE they became champ

It happens to fighters who never get the title opportunity like Archie Moore.

Yeah maybe so, but I just think its a bit dubious to say a guy was in his prime before he was champ, given the fact that everyone looks better before they're champ because they're fighting weaker opposition for the most part.

I understand he was at a more advanced age when he won the title than most champs are, but he was just coming off of two first round KOs of Patterson, who was a magnificent fighter, so can we really say he was that passed his prime, if at all?

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But hey I like Sonny, I always felt bad for him.

He probably could have been champ for another 5-8 years if it wasn't for Ali and he was able to keep his head on straight.