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I always hate the argument "If you don't like it, then move to Cuba, China, Turkey (whatever country is deemed sinister)". It would be far better if people were allowed to stay, point out the flaws, and then have a society function based on how things can be improved for everybody. The 'you are either with us or against us' line is such a monkey brained cliche. They say it as though the oligarchs really are at one with the general populace. The title of the thread is true, though I would term it a plutocracy. I know it sounds harsh, but if the US did what it did and kept to itself I wouldn't mind so much. The problem is that it is exporting this insidious ideology around the world and that is where puppet states likewise adopt barbaric neo liberal mania economic policies, support illegal wars, help to rendition etc. It isn't just about America, it is that people in Turkey are likewise affected by the unchecked power. Brock could go to Turkey, but the crazed oligarchs are globalists. Unfortunately going away isn't a solution. Everywhere has central banks and Starbucks etc. Funnily enough North Korea doesn't have a central bank and I don't think Starbucks has caught on. In some ways they are pretty progressive. "Bugger off to North Korea then". Sigh.
I only said that cause @brocktonblockbust lives in Turkey. WTF. When did you two become so serious. I've asked Brock several times how long he is here thinking that we could get together but the bastard keeps ignoring me. I often critique the US, most of us who live here do. You guys need to let me know when the rules change. I can't keep up with it. I am only serious about ten percent of the time here. So you can both go back to your respective countries, hop in your prams, and play rubber ducky.
Not sure what happened here. I wasnt getting serious or anything, I've always roughly said the same shit. No rules changed bro. Honest. Nothing got personal or anything, dont worry
Yeah, I'm just having fun on my part. I had a he'll of a weekend at work. You mentioned the oilgarks. It's funny if you read about Putin's rise to power. He was put there by the oil guys who ran the country up to that time. They figured Putin, who had been stuck at midranking positions would be grateful and easyl.to control. Shortly there after he flipped the script and said this is how it's going to be bitches