Re: The Fight: Walrus vs SlimTrae (Political Objectivity)
Final thoughts on your use of the word "libertarian"
I have come to accept that Ron Paul was (once) a Republican who espoused conservative values.
He changed his party during Reagan's era- and aligned himself briefly with the libertarian party-
I think he stated he was never fully a libertarian and rather held views that he hoped they as a party would endorse.
Then he left, and went back to the Republican Party- claiming the same thing: hoping the conservatives would come to see things his way-
when he lost the 2012 nominee- I can show where he was asked to endorse Romney. He said no and explained. His son however went on to endorse Romney. Feel free to correct me: but from the posts I have seen of yours--it seems that you favor Rand over Ron.
Is Rand a libertarian to you? And what would prevent you a self proclaimed libertarian from supporting one? What would cause you to consider voting for Rubio-as a libertarian? Why label yourself at all?
Ron Paul's labels don't matter me no way or the other- its the words he uses. His take on the Federal Reserve. His take on waging wars, his take on African-Americans in the penal system, his take on abortion that I see eye to eye with. I don't know who he learned from -but I did read one dude who he quoted:
a dude named Henrie Fairlie
During the 1980 Republican convention, he wrote a column for The Washington Post describing the delegates as Narrow minded, book banning, truth censoring, mean spirited; ungenerous, envious, intolerant, afraid; chicken, bullying; trivially moral, falsely patriotic; family cheapening, flag cheapening, God cheapening; the common man, shallow, small, sanctimonious."
Oh, yeah, I can get down with where he's coming from. On the for real side. 
Surely the British fellows here can chime in on this dude. & the term "the establishment". Well per history Henry Fairlie is considered the one who (coined) the phrase.
His works in the 1960s was published in The New Republic, The Washington Post, The New Yorker
How did he view Dems? He distrusted John F. Kennedy & claimed John K's charisma and promises gave the country false expectations for change-
He deemed the Reagan era/coalition as: Tax-cutting regulation-haters
Fairlie's critique of American conservatism began with the Reagan GOP & claimed: that by embracing the free market so completely, the party had gone calamitously awry
Republicans, he argued, could never succeed in uniting the country as long as they supported business interests so completely with both their policy choices and their rhetoric: "The nation cannot be brought to you, as if it were Masterpiece Theatre, by a grant from Mobil Oil,"
Ron Paul hipped me to this dude- And Ron espouses libertarian views- and when I looked at their web page? Did they not agree with the same sex marriage via 14th amendment? DO you? Do they not agree that abortion is not about American morals/values but about the woman and her own body? And you? Do they not argue today that Republicans are wrong to want to spend more on military than Obama is today? And you?
These hardly seem the issues to which you get down with. So unless there is another party of libertarians...what exactly makes you one? No argument from me..Im just curious why you don't call yourself a conservative and leave it at that. And again feel free to show my posts of liberalism along with the claims. Maybe you can show something in me that I cant see from within. Its all good.
Truth, that is..
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
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