Floyd's resume.

[Manos de Piedra]

It's solid IMO.

[Kel]

You can't really argue with it (his resume) but for me it could have been much better given his talent.

[mikeeod]

Floyd has a great resume, just not an ATG resume. The Chico, Castillo, and Hatton fights were his best performances, in my opinion. Chico and Hatton were undefeated when he fought them, and both were p4p guys that he stopped. Castillo was just hitting his groove and a very underrated and outstanding champ who probably should've won the first fight, but was dominated in the rematch.

The Canelo, Baldomir, and Pac wins were all very good wins. Canelo was a much larger man, but his lack of experience keeps this out of the great category for me. Baldy was a lineal champ and was HUGE for 147, while Floyd was coming up and much smaller. Baldy was a limited guy however, so Floyd boxing to a decision wasn't great or unexpected. I feel like the Apache fight is the same whenever they fight, but Pacs deterioration keeps that win out of the great category for me.

The Genaro/Famoso Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Gatti, Oscar, Judah, Maidana, Jesus Chavez, Cotto and Mosely fights were all solid performances and wins. I thought the Bruseles and JMM fights were classless displays, and I feel the Berto fight on PPV is a joke. Over all that is a great resume.

[VG_Addict]

I don't think Floyd will ever be a top 10 ATG, no matter what he does.

The top 10 ATG list is pretty much set in stone at this point.

[Beanflicker]

The top 10 ATG list is pretty much set in stone at this point.

By weak-minded sheep who get their information spoon-fed to them, sure.

For people who actually like to think critically about the sport, nothing is ever set in stone.

[VG_Addict]

The top 10 ATG list is pretty much set in stone at this point.

By weak-minded sheep who get their information spoon-fed to them, sure.

For people who actually like to think critically about the sport, nothing is ever set in stone.

I think most boxing fans just blindly parrot what they've read or heard.

[Silkeyjoe]

The top 10 ATG list is pretty much set in stone at this point.

By weak-minded sheep who get their information spoon-fed to them, sure.

For people who actually like to think critically about the sport, nothing is ever set in stone.

Was just about to say the same thing. As you know I dont like Floyd but how he can be outside anyones top 10 list is beyond me. No doubt most of these guys have guys in there top 10 that theyve seen fight once or twice at most.

[Master]

His CV is good but lets not drool over it. For what he earns he should have fought GGG by now.

[Beanflicker]

Canelo was a much larger man, but his lack of experience keeps this out of the great category for me.

Lack of experience? He had 43 fights, he was the champion of the division for over 2 years, had defended his title 6 or 7 times, had gone the full 12 round distance 5 times.

He had seen a ton of different styles from a lot of grizzled vets, had been in there with an ATG in Mosley (a washed up Mosley, yes, but Mosley) and just had a tough battle where he had to dig deep against a slick southpaw who had just beat the hell out of Miguel Cotto.

Canelo had a TON of experience for his age.

And right after the Floyd loss, Canelo rose back up to the #1 position in the division by beating Lara, a guy who was considered one of the best talents in boxing and a guy people accused Floyd of ducking.

[mikeeod]

Canelo was a much larger man, but his lack of experience keeps this out of the great category for me.

Lack of experience? He had 43 fights, he was the champion of the division for over 2 years, had defended his title 6 or 7 times, had gone the full 12 round distance 5 times.

He had seen a ton of different styles from a lot of grizzled vets, had been in there with an ATG in Mosley (a washed up Mosley, yes, but Mosley) and just had a tough battle where he had to dig deep against a slick southpaw who had just beat the hell out of Miguel Cotto.


Canelo had a TON of experience for his age.

And right after the Floyd loss, Canelo rose back up to the #1 position in the division by beating Lara, a guy who was considered one of the best talents in boxing and a guy people accused Floyd of ducking.

A ton of experience FOR HIS AGE. Canelo struggled with both Trout and Lara due to their speed, boxing ability and slickness. In other words, he was made for Floyd stylistically. As for experience, there is a difference between fighting a lot of fights vs questionable opposition, and fighting at the world class level. Canelo is still pretty green. Compare him to Oba Carr during his prime years. Buddy McGirt during his prime years. If you are honest you admit that he was very young and limited and it showed in the ring vs Floyd. Again, keep it in perspective that I label this a very good win, just not a great one. No way can you compare Floyd's beat down of Chico, a truly great win, to his decision over a gun shy Canelo.

[Beanflicker]

A ton of experience FOR HIS AGE. Canelo struggled with both Trout and Lara due to their speed, boxing ability and slickness. In other words, he was made for Floyd stylistically. As for experience, there is a difference between fighting a lot of fights vs questionable opposition, and fighting at the world class level. Canelo is still pretty green. Compare him to Oba Carr during his prime years. Buddy McGirt during his prime years. If you are honest you admit that he was very young and limited and it showed in the ring vs Floyd. Again, keep it in perspective that I label this a very good win, just not a great one. No way can you compare Floyd's beat down of Chico, a truly great win, to his decision over a gun shy Canelo.

How much experience did he need before he went up against Floyd, though? He had championship level experience, like I said he went the 12 round distance 5 times, and was in there with some grizzled vets and an ATG in Shane Mosley. What more experience did he need?

When it comes to Floyd people say "oh all he did is fight old guys past their prime." In Canelo he beat a 23 year old guy in his physical prime who had a lot of experience and 25 plus pounds on Floyd on fight night, and that's not a great win?

If outboxing Canelo is so easy, how come Erislandy Lara couldn't? He's considered one of the greatest pure boxers in the sport, he's much bigger than Floyd, he's taller, he has a bigger reach, he has more power... yet he couldn't beat Canelo. Even if people think Lara deserved the nod, it was still a razor close fight. Floyd didn't edge Canelo, he dominated and embarrassed him.

[mikeeod]

A ton of experience FOR HIS AGE. Canelo struggled with both Trout and Lara due to their speed, boxing ability and slickness. In other words, he was made for Floyd stylistically. As for experience, there is a difference between fighting a lot of fights vs questionable opposition, and fighting at the world class level. Canelo is still pretty green. Compare him to Oba Carr during his prime years. Buddy McGirt during his prime years. If you are honest you admit that he was very young and limited and it showed in the ring vs Floyd. Again, keep it in perspective that I label this a very good win, just not a great one. No way can you compare Floyd's beat down of Chico, a truly great win, to his decision over a gun shy Canelo.

How much experience did he need before he went up against Floyd, though? He had championship level experience, like I said he went the 12 round distance 5 times, and was in there with some grizzled vets and an ATG in Shane Mosley. What more experience did he need?

When it comes to Floyd people say "oh all he did is fight old guys past their prime." In Canelo he beat a 23 year old guy in his physical prime who had a lot of experience and 25 plus pounds on Floyd on fight night, and that's not a great win?

If outboxing Canelo is so easy, how come Erislandy Lara couldn't? He's considered one of the greatest pure boxers in the sport, he's much bigger than Floyd, he's taller, he has a bigger reach, he has more power... yet he couldn't beat Canelo. Even if people think Lara deserved the nod, it was still a razor close fight. Floyd didn't edge Canelo, he dominated and embarrassed him.

Dot think it was, I say it's a very good win for Floyd. Was Canelos first big fight at that level and as I said, he was young and inexperienced at that level and it showed in the fight. Doesn't compare to where Chico, Hatton and Castillo were when Floyd fought them. Those guys were ready and at their Zenith, Canelo is still learning as rising. Also, I remember the Lara fight being extremely close and Canelo looking equally awkward and ineffective in that one, so I don't think that really makes ur point for u.

[imp]

Floyd has a great resume, just not an ATG resume. The Chico, Castillo, and Hatton fights were his best performances, in my opinion. Chico and Hatton were undefeated when he fought them, and both were p4p guys that he stopped. Castillo was just hitting his groove and a very underrated and outstanding champ who probably should've won the first fight, but was dominated in the rematch.

The Canelo, Baldomir, and Pac wins were all very good wins. Canelo was a much larger man, but his lack of experience keeps this out of the great category for me. Baldy was a lineal champ and was HUGE for 147, while Floyd was coming up and much smaller. Baldy was a limited guy however, so Floyd boxing to a decision wasn't great or unexpected. I feel like the Apache fight is the same whenever they fight, but Pacs deterioration keeps that win out of the great category for me.

The Genaro/Famoso Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Gatti, Oscar, Judah, Maidana, Jesus Chavez, Cotto and Mosely fights were all solid performances and wins. I thought the Bruseles and JMM fights were classless displays, and I feel the Berto fight on PPV is a joke. Over all that is a great resume.

Canelo lack of experience and pacs deterioration...what a load of bollocks!

[mikeeod]

Floyd has a great resume, just not an ATG resume. The Chico, Castillo, and Hatton fights were his best performances, in my opinion. Chico and Hatton were undefeated when he fought them, and both were p4p guys that he stopped. Castillo was just hitting his groove and a very underrated and outstanding champ who probably should've won the first fight, but was dominated in the rematch.

The Canelo, Baldomir, and Pac wins were all very good wins. Canelo was a much larger man, but his lack of experience keeps this out of the great category for me. Baldy was a lineal champ and was HUGE for 147, while Floyd was coming up and much smaller. Baldy was a limited guy however, so Floyd boxing to a decision wasn't great or unexpected. I feel like the Apache fight is the same whenever they fight, but Pacs deterioration keeps that win out of the great category for me.

The Genaro/Famoso Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Gatti, Oscar, Judah, Maidana, Jesus Chavez, Cotto and Mosely fights were all solid performances and wins. I thought the Bruseles and JMM fights were classless displays, and I feel the Berto fight on PPV is a joke. Over all that is a great resume.

Canelo lack of experience and pacs deterioration...what a load of bollocks!

Are you insinuating that Pac was in his prime when they fought?!?!? You're saying the 2015 Pac was the same as the 2008-2012 Pac?!?!? Talk about a Floyd chugger...