Maybe we should start a "has-beens" still fighting thread -since so many ancient relics are still lacing up the gloves.
One thread in all.
Maybe we should start a "has-beens" still fighting thread -since so many ancient relics are still lacing up the gloves.
One thread in all.
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
This is a good interview where Roy talks about training fighters.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Youre all talking him hurting his 'Legacy'. And in the same breath you are all saying he is one of the best to lace on a glove..
Seems to me he isn't hurting his legacy at all. People can tell the difference between the Roy who reached the pinnacle of boxing by winning the Heavyweight title..... and the Roy who went down hill instantly after that.
Roy mentally, subconsciously, retired after winning the Heavyweight title. He was never the same after that. His second career started the very next fight.
I'm not one to say that overstaying ones welcome in a sport they no longer dominate is like tainting their legacy, but I understand those who do say it.
It is possible that the best who put on gloves can hurt their reputation as a fighter who always showed in best shape, but stopped doing it as they got older. Hopkins is clearly the example. Old as he is- look at his body when he shows up.
Now look at a photo of Roy. Where is Roy's sixpack abs? Hopkins as old as he is- shows up to win because he trains to win.
Looking at Roy Jones the past five years- he shows up & that's it.
Being old doesn't mean one cant stay in shape, it means they have to work hard(er) to stay in shape- And Roy has hurt that aspect of his life. He clearly shows up in whatever shape he's in, I consider that fact by photo.
& Roy retiring mentally & subconsciously? after the HW title is an opinion to me and makes it seem like Tarver nor Johnson really beat him. He beat himself. It be nice to think Roy never really lost because he wasn't all there.
Roy lost because someone (Tarver & Johnson) beat him. The other guys...50/50,, can't say...
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
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