MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!

[Fenster]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

[IamInuit]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Not true. He tested positive for Ripped Fuel in the Richard Hall fight and his system was loaded with it. Hall, the one who wanted the tests accusing Roy of cheating had more in his system then Roy. They buried it under the rug because Roy was Floyd.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Not true. He tested positive for Ripped Fuel in the Richard Hall fight and his system was loaded with it. Hall, the one who wanted the tests accusing Roy of cheating had more in his system then Roy. They buried it under the rug because Roy was Floyd.

exactly what I just said, Ripped Fuel a product that was bought at GNC, and contains androstenedione , big difference

[IamInuit]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Not true. He tested positive for Ripped Fuel in the Richard Hall fight and his system was loaded with it. Hall, the one who wanted the tests accusing Roy of cheating had more in his system then Roy. They buried it under the rug because Roy was Floyd.

exactly what I just said, Ripped Fuel a product that was bought at GNC, and contains androstenedione , big difference

And I said he was caught and it was a steroid whether he bought it at Gnc or the 7-11. I'm not debating whether Margarito cheated or not. He did and was a scum bag for doing so. I'm also saying that he has gotten his comeuppance and that the horse has been beaten to top soil. Nothing left of the Nag to hit.

Not only has he lost everything but his name will forever be remembered and joined at the hip to the likes of Luis Resto. A man that I myself have compared him to in the past. If you want to get philosophical about it then consider it revisiting the subject matter like we all do for practically everything in life at times. Logic suggests that he had to know his mitts felt different but that's not proof and its also quite possible that he zones himself out listening to the Tijuana brass band or something during the wrap stage. Whereas Resto had his gloves removed and then brought back and they had to feel like wearing hand condoms. So then it becomes a question of intent and by whom. There is reasonable doubt in one case and none in the other.

Now suppose we accept he knew. Well, then maybe he felt he was going up against a known juicer who could just as well be juicing for this very important fight and wanted to even the playing field knowing also that his opponent had a titanium chin.

Because he cheated in that fight does not necessarily mean that he cheated in the fights prior. Again, I am as guilty as anyone for nailing this guy to the cross, posting pictures and making conclusions. I mean reasoning suggests that if he was going to cheat against old man Mosley then he was going to cheat against a prime Cotto. I believe that myself but that's not proof. And again if he was did he know it or did his wrapping become like starting ones car. Routine?

This is not an exercise in defense of the guy but I'll say it again, the man has suffered enough. His wife, children, money and his legacy in the sport. Whats left to take? And when you add in the historic Mex/Pr rivalry into this mix, the freakin wheels fall off.

And again we all cheer for cheaters every week. Most of the guys at the top are cheaters and they are premeditating it. We know this and support them. That's both cherry picking on our part and hypocrisy. Why do fighters look so flat when they fight Floyd when prior to fighting him they look so unstoppable? Is it because Floyd is that good or is it his testing demands or both?

Look the bottom line for me is that he has paid dearly for his part in the drama and deserves the opportunity to both have a second chance and make a living in the only way he knows how.

[TitoFan]

I think in many cases it's the fans on one side that completely galvanize those fans on the other side. This is one of those cases. Has Margarito suffered enough? Does he deserve a second chance? (Technically, he already got a second chance when he was allowed to fight again). It's all a matter of personal opinion. It's when blind followers defend his cheating with the most irrational statements... that's when the polarization occurs. TBH, I'm satisfied the way he went out. Damaged goods, with one good eye, his reputation in shreds. He wants to come back? He can do whatever he wants. He's risking a lot, but whatever. As you said... it's the only thing he knows how to do. That in itself is a sad statement. He might make a few bucks on his comeback... but he'll always be known as a cheater.

[Fenster]

There's no evidence Margarito ever knowingly cheated. There's no evidence Margarito ever fought a single fight with "bricks" in his gloves.

Why would anyone find that unreasonable? It's just a fact.

Maybe he did know and maybe he did fight with "bricks" in his gloves. But there's also the possibility he didn't and has been unfairly slandered.

[C.J.Rock]

I think in many cases it's the fans on one side that completely galvanize those fans on the other side. This is one of those cases. Has Margarito suffered enough? Does he deserve a second chance? (Technically, he already got a second chance when he was allowed to fight again). It's all a matter of personal opinion. It's when blind followers defend his cheating with the most irrational statements... that's when the polarization occurs. TBH, I'm satisfied the way he went out. Damaged goods, with one good eye, his reputation in shreds. He wants to come back? He can do whatever he wants. He's risking a lot, but whatever. As you said... it's the only thing he knows how to do. That in itself is a sad statement. He might make a few bucks on his comeback... but he'll always be known as a cheater.

All you loud mouths have are ACCUSATIONS !!! No PROOF!! Whatsoever. Whats behind it is the fact you know in your hearts Tony Margarito would have kicked the asses of all your idols Mayweather , Oscar etc were shit scared to get in the ring with him so they conspired to railroad him VIVA TIJUANA TORNADO!!! if HE'D GOT TITO IN THE RING TONY WOULD HAVE DONE A HOPKINS ON HIM & KICKED HIS ASS

[Dark Lord Al]

Hasnt Cotto done well with his T Rex arms ! 4 weight world champion

[Fenster]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Roy tested positive for the testosterone precursor androstenedione in 2000. (Boxing does not escape the specter of steroids)

That would make him a cheat.

Margarito fought a fight with bricks in his gloves? Can you provide evidence?

There is a big difference.

[C.J.Rock]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Bricks in wraps BULLSHIT!!


There was nothing illegal in Margarito's wraps EVER but a HARMLESS used gauze pad
I saw his hands wrapped for Cotto 1 they were clean 100% Margarito kicked that diva's ass LEGITIMATELY.


Jones jr knew EXACTLY what he was taking was ILLEGAL


Yes there is a difference Jones jr cheated Margarito NEVER did

[ElTerribleMorales]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Bricks in wraps BULLSHIT!!


There was nothing illegal in Margarito's wraps EVER but a HARMLESS used gauze pad
I saw his hands wrapped for Cotto 1 they were clean 100% Margarito kicked that diva's ass LEGITIMATELY.


Jones jr knew EXACTLY what he was taking was ILLEGAL


Yes there is a difference Jones jr cheated Margarito NEVER did

apart from the plaster of paris residue that they found on it, and where they deemed that Capetillo to be no better than Panama Lewis and gave him an indefinite suspension, and handed little Antonio a lengthy one also, yea but they did that for the hell of it, right, the only legitimate ass whooping to take place between the two, was the first half of the first fight where Tony's gloves couldn't catch shit, and then the rematch where he showed how pathetic he really is and got the ass whooping and boxing lesson of a life time, face the facts, Tony had 1 win after he "beat" Cotto and was exposed as a cheat against Mosley, and that was against a bum, then got schooled ever other fight since

Jones was never suspended, never deemed guilty, MARGACHEATO WAS, big difference

[Fenster]

Panama Lewis was arrested and jailed. Capetillo was suspended for a year from being in the corner, he still trained fighters. Big difference.

Cotto beating Margarito didn't prove Margarito cheated the first time. They were pretty similar fights. Cotto boxed and moved more the second time which led to Margarito's eyes being busted. If anything Margarito was starting to come on strong again when he was forced to stop.

[TitoFan]

I can't say I'm surprised that cheating scumbag Margarito is STILL being defended by a special, select few, after he was caught cheating, suspended.... and left the sport with his head down in disgrace. It must burn deep down in the pit of the stomach, to have your hero dragged through the mud, without any chance in hell to ever come within shouting distance of the HOF.

Damn....

[C.J.Rock]

Are all cheats arseholes or just the one's we don't like?

I like Roy Jones but he's a cheat.

difference between them when one used bricks in his wraps, and the other one used a product that was bought at a GNC, and the substance androstenedione is or was only banned by the IBF, tests came out negative pre and post fight, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE

Bricks in wraps BULLSHIT!!


There was nothing illegal in Margarito's wraps EVER but a HARMLESS used gauze pad
I saw his hands wrapped for Cotto 1 they were clean 100% Margarito kicked that diva's ass LEGITIMATELY.


Jones jr knew EXACTLY what he was taking was ILLEGAL


Yes there is a difference Jones jr cheated Margarito NEVER did

apart from the plaster of paris residue that they found on it, and where they deemed that Capetillo to be no better than Panama Lewis and gave him an indefinite suspension, and handed little Antonio a lengthy one also, yea but they did that for the hell of it, right, the only legitimate ass whooping to take place between the two, was the first half of the first fight where Tony's gloves couldn't catch shit, and then the rematch where he showed how pathetic he really is and got the ass whooping and boxing lesson of a life time, face the facts, Tony had 1 win after he "beat" Cotto and was exposed as a cheat against Mosley, and that was against a bum, then got schooled ever other fight since

Jones was never suspended, never deemed guilty, MARGACHEATO WAS, big difference

There was no " plaster of paris residue" on the pad. The official description by the testing lab was. The pad was used & damp . it had a brown stain on it. After microscopic analysis TRACE ELENENTS of sulpher & calcium were discovered which in much larger quantities mixed with other ingredients will make plaster of paris. What the CSAC failed to say was Calcium & sulpher are also ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT!!! not to mention hand crème. The only "CRIME" committed was Capetillo admitted he accidently put a used pad in instead of a new one. A technical offense at worst The pad was deemed HARMLESS!!


Jones like Mosely is a PROVEN EPO & steroid abuser Jones wasn't charged because the commission hid the positive test results until Jones opponent opened his mouth. Sorta like the NSAC have given Floyd passes on 3 positive tests according to reports
The only cheat on that night was MOSELY who was almost certainly juiced to the gills AGAIN!!! against Margarito


Margarito was never charged let alone convicted of any crime he was a victim of a kangaroo court. In other words it was We think youre guilty so you must be. Is that how the US justice system works??