Faster hands, Tyson or Ali?

[p4pking]

Hard to say, totally different builds and styles, neither could come close to showing the same type of speed/quickness as the other imo. Ali was fast as hell in his prime, but he stayed outside and did shoeshine quite a bit. Tyson turned everything over but couldn't fight at that range, he was something like 6" shorter and probably at an even greater deficit in reach.

[Master]

Close but have to go with Tyson.

[Tam Seddon]

http://youtu.be/MF17mkqyf44

Tyson thinks Ali would have beat him.

[Master]

But does Tyson think Ali was faster?

[mikeeod]

In my opinion Ali had the faster reflexes and his jab was faster than any single punch Tyson threw in his prime. Their feet are very close in speed, with Ali faster moving laterally and Tyson faster at creating the angle/shifting. Where Ali was faster with single shots, Tyson was faster throwing combinations and also delivered more power throughout the combos.

[tysonesque]

I think Tyson edges it.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

http://youtu.be/MF17mkqyf44

Tyson thinks Ali would have beat him.

And Ali thinks Tyson would beat him.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Tyson was by far the more explosive. Things in short bursts. Here, there, side-to-side, boom-boom-boom.
Whereas Ali was more balletic with better reflexes, maybe better timing.
Both were equally capable of rattling off silly combinations just in different ways.

[ykdadamaja]

Hard to say, totally different builds and styles, neither could come close to showing the same type of speed/quickness as the other imo. Ali was fast as hell in his prime, but he stayed outside and did shoeshine quite a bit. Tyson turned everything over but couldn't fight at that range, he was something like 6" shorter and probably at an even greater deficit in reach.

This put it into perspective for me. I would have to go with Tyson, for the mere fact that his punches had all into them and Ali was just a shoe-shine kinda puncher.

[SlimTrae]

67-70 Ali hands down.
Tyson pre prison faster than Ali post 1970

[jon09]

Long range it goes to Ali but on the inside it is Tyson hands down.

[beenKOed]

Long range it goes to Ali but on the inside it is Tyson hands down.

I agree and Tyson definitely enjoyed it more. If there was no inside there wouldn't have been a Tyson.

[X]

I don't agree that Tyson was an inside fighter. He actually took a lot of criticism in the early days for not fighting on the inside (watch the Pinklon Thomas first few rounds)

I recall that Tyson used to unload on the way in, not while he was 'in'. Perhaps people think he was an inside fighter because his preferred punching range was inevitably closer than the other guy's because of his much shorter arms. Tyson was actually quite passive on the inside and allowed himself to be held, so the ref could separate them and he could start his approach run again.

[Bill Paxtom]

Faster Hands

#1... Cassius Clay
#2... Mike Tyson
#3... Muhammad Ali

[Master]

I don't agree that Tyson was an inside fighter. He actually took a lot of criticism in the early days for not fighting on the inside (watch the Pinklon Thomas first few rounds)

I recall that Tyson used to unload on the way in, not while he was 'in'. Perhaps people think he was an inside fighter because his preferred punching range was inevitably closer than the other guy's because of his much shorter arms. Tyson was actually quite passive on the inside and allowed himself to be held, so the ref could separate them and he could start his approach run again.

Rooney use to remind Tyson to fight on the inside. Mike did throw combinations inside ask Bruno.