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    Default Re: America you seriously need to sort out your gun laws - Reporter shot dead on live

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Certain states in America having strict gun laws means fuck all when other states have very relaxed gun laws, they are all over your country and are easily moved around and have been for years so the having strict laws is a joke, the damage/problem is already cemented into your culture.
    Nowhere in the UK is it ok to have a firearm like it is in some US states.
    If say Scotland had similar relaxed gun laws like some of your states then we would have a massive problem like you have but they aren't and we don't.
    Its gotta be an all out ban across the entire country to even begin to tackle the problem, that is the USA problem.
    A 10 year old could suss that out to be honest
    If having strict gun laws is a joke, what is an outright ban going to do differently? It's an absolute fact that the majority of gun crimes are committed with illegal firearms, that means weapons that never pass through any kind of system or registry and are dealt just like drugs are, not to mention most often purchased by people that couldn't(or at least wouldn't) legally obtain a firearm in any state no matter how lax the laws are. If you ban them all for everyone, it overwhelmingly harms people that obtain them responsibly and are inherently much less likely to hurt anyone. It does absolutely zilch to stop all of the guns that are already in the wrong hands, and the millions entering the country and being purchased underground. Cocaine is completely illegal, do you think that does anything whatsoever to curb the use and trafficking of it? I agree with you that it's embedded in the culture and that stinks, but you are oversimplifying it immensely. If you know any sensible 10 year old's they might actually be able to help you with this.








    Ok your still not seeing the bigger picture here so let me give you some "Absolute Facts"
    No one is disagreeing with you but where do you think the source of these "Illegal" guns starts....
    It is absolute fact that the 3 main sources of illegal guns in the USA are as follows -

    1) - Straw Purchases - a straw purchase occurs when someone who may not legally acquire a firearm or who wants to do so anonymously has a companion buy it on their behalf (legally)

    2) - The second biggest source of illegal guns in the USA is where legally licensed but corrupt at home and commercial gun dealers sell the firearms to criminals (there are several reports to back this fact up and that illegal activity by those licensed to sell guns (legally) known as FFLs - Federal Firearms Licenses is a huge source of guns used in crimes

    3) - Guns that are legally owned are stolen and used illegally for Criminal purposes


    These are the hard facts and anyone who thinks that the problem doesn't stem/start from the fact that guns in the USA are widely Legal is deluded, naive, uneducated and stupid

    Like i said these are facts and they are constantly hitting you in the face hard but you and people like Lyle just choose to ignore them and yes i do believe a 10 year old could suss out the source of the problem.

    Evidence implies that many of the mentally ill who are determined to get firearms will wind up "jurisdiction shopping". After Virginia started reporting its mental health records to NICS, 378 of the 438 those denied guns because of a Virginia mental health record were trying to purchase a firearm in another state.

    It's not fucking rocket science to see that the guns used illegally are obtained from legal sources.
    I just gave you the hard facts (i even made the clues BOLD so dickheads like Lyle can figure it out easier

    Are you still going to disagree?
    Last edited by smashup; 08-27-2015 at 07:37 PM.

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