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    Default Re: Floyd against southpaws.

    Offensively, I think there is a statistic out there that generally he has a higher connect percentage against southpaws so it's impossible to say he struggles but defensively, his shoulder roll had been less effective so he has had to adapt his style in different ways. I actually think that technically he has improved against southpaws.
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    Default Re: Floyd against southpaws.

    Floyd does struggle with southpaws but normally adjusts and wins the later rounds.
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    Floyd does struggle with southpaws but normally adjusts and wins the later rounds.

    If Pernell was around he would have been serious trouble for Floyd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Floyd does struggle with southpaws but normally adjusts and wins the later rounds.

    If Pernell was around he would have been serious trouble for Floyd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Floyd does struggle with southpaws but normally adjusts and wins the later rounds.

    If Pernell was around he would have been serious trouble for Floyd.
    I would like to hear how you define struggle. Because he hasn't had one competitive fight against a southpaw.

    Emanuel Pacquiao was as easy a fight as any fight short of Gatti
    Guerrero was almost as easy as Emanuel
    Ortiz was a wipeout
    Judah was completely onesided after the early rounds
    Sharmba was a wipeout
    Corley was pure domination
    Sanders he won every round

    Rounds 52-10, doesn't seem like struggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Floyd does struggle with southpaws but normally adjusts and wins the later rounds.

    If Pernell was around he would have been serious trouble for Floyd.
    I would like to hear how you define struggle. Because he hasn't had one competitive fight against a southpaw.

    Emanuel Pacquiao was as easy a fight as any fight short of Gatti
    Guerrero was almost as easy as Emanuel
    Ortiz was a wipeout
    Judah was completely onesided after the early rounds
    Sharmba was a wipeout
    Corley was pure domination
    Sanders he won every round

    Rounds 52-10, doesn't seem like struggling.
    To be fair, none of those fighters were anywhere near Pernells level. Anyone who ever fought Sweet Pea struggled, even when he was well past his prime. He and Floyd are two of the greatest defensive specialists ever, and would have been about as even a match up as you could find.

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    Default Re: Floyd against southpaws.

    Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.
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    Default Re: Floyd against southpaws.

    I think he just struggles against quality opposition. Saying southpaws "rocked him" or "gave him trouble" may be true but so did the orthodox fighters. I don't think it has anything to do with stance but more so fighting style. Cotto and Maidana both gave him trouble in recent years, more than any southpaw, and maidana and mosely both rocked him harder than any southpaw has. I think his issue comes with boxers that aren't conventional. WHen he fights awkward fighters he runs into a bit of an adjustment period. On the other hand, when he fights pure boxers (like Canelo) he cruises to a victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    I think he just struggles against quality opposition. Saying southpaws "rocked him" or "gave him trouble" may be true but so did the orthodox fighters. I don't think it has anything to do with stance but more so fighting style. Cotto and Maidana both gave him trouble in recent years, more than any southpaw, and maidana and mosely both rocked him harder than any southpaw has. I think his issue comes with boxers that aren't conventional. WHen he fights awkward fighters he runs into a bit of an adjustment period. On the other hand, when he fights pure boxers (like Canelo) he cruises to a victory.
    IMO, Mosley rocked him the hardest (even though he didn't go down) but I place Zab's unscored knockdown as 2nd.
    Mayweather seemed to be fighting a more fan friendly style fight against Cotto. That's how I saw it, anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.
    So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.
    So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification
    How many times have you seen Floyd struggle in his whole career?

    15 seconds is a long time because he was seriously hurt in those seconds. Other than Shane, that is the only time he was wobbled and out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Floyd does struggle with southpaws but normally adjusts and wins the later rounds.

    If Pernell was around he would have been serious trouble for Floyd.
    I would like to hear how you define struggle. Because he hasn't had one competitive fight against a southpaw.

    Emanuel Pacquiao was as easy a fight as any fight short of Gatti
    Guerrero was almost as easy as Emanuel
    Ortiz was a wipeout
    Judah was completely onesided after the early rounds
    Sharmba was a wipeout
    Corley was pure domination
    Sanders he won every round

    Rounds 52-10, doesn't seem like struggling.
    To be fair, none of those fighters were anywhere near Pernells level. Anyone who ever fought Sweet Pea struggled, even when he was well past his prime. He and Floyd are two of the greatest defensive specialists ever, and would have been about as even a match up as you could find.
    I think Pernell troubling Floyd would have more to do with him being really fucking good rather than being a southpaw, that and having a jab. Most don't recognize why Manny would never trouble Floyd, no jab. It's the key to opening the shoulder roll up as much or more than the different angle the straight left comes from.

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