GGG competition..

[IamInuit]

The division is in scam mode. The Kazak according to Fat Dan got between 800,000 to 900,000 to step aside for the farce championship.They got off easy all things considered. Now the fake champion is making 30 million to fight a non-middle who gets close to 4 million in a catchweight fight for whats called the Ring and lineal middleweight title.

Sanctioned racketeering.

[SlimTrae]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

[SlimTrae]

Just came to me- Jake said about Haglar what we say about guys like Floyd.

He said Hagla's best fights came against guys who were WW's that gained weight. not TRUE MW's

[IamInuit]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

Well, Hagler did make his name off of x welter stars that moved up. So did Monzon and Hopkins.

The Kazaks problem is different and if you will 3 fold. This "A-side" posing as champions wont fight him. None of the other 3 had that problem. He's destroyed everyone he's fought and even when he's a mandatory and aired out the division and all thats left is unification, the one falsely recognized as the REAL champion wont fight him holding top spot hostage and putting on farcical defenses. Those 3 never dealt with that either. And finally the welters wont move up and fight him. They did for those 3.

[Master]

Hagler would have smashed Jake Lamotta and that is all that matters. Actually so would have Hearns and many of the opponents Hagler beat.

[Hulk]

Hagler would have smashed Jake Lamotta and that is all that matters. Actually so would have Hearns and many of the opponents Hagler beat.

Exactly. Lamotta was tough as nails but couldn't crack an egg.

[Spicoli]

He's the bull in the china shop that is the middleweight division. All you can do is beat up everyone willing to step in and for what he lacks, Lemieux can crack and thinks he belongs and unlike some diva champs he'll try to prove it.

[SlimTrae]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

Well, Hagler did make his name off of x welter stars that moved up. So did Monzon and Hopkins.

The Kazaks problem is different and if you will 3 fold. This "A-side" posing as champions wont fight him. None of the other 3 had that problem. He's destroyed everyone he's fought and even when he's a mandatory and aired out the division and all thats left is unification, the one falsely recognized as the REAL champion wont fight him holding top spot hostage and putting on farcical defenses. Those 3 never dealt with that either. And finally the welters wont move up and fight him. They did for those 3.

Well said.

[Ron Swanson]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

Well, Hagler did make his name off of x welter stars that moved up. So did Monzon and Hopkins.

The Kazaks problem is different and if you will 3 fold. This "A-side" posing as champions wont fight him. None of the other 3 had that problem. He's destroyed everyone he's fought and even when he's a mandatory and aired out the division and all thats left is unification, the one falsely recognized as the REAL champion wont fight him holding top spot hostage and putting on farcical defenses. Those 3 never dealt with that either. And finally the welters wont move up and fight him. They did for those 3.

It's all true. But the big difference for Haglers era was the best Welters were big. The best welters now started well below welter and have maxed out size wise. There's a big difference between guys 5'10/6'1 and guys 5'6/5'8

[palmerq]

Pretty sure golovkin is being set up by hbo(big tv guys are really in control I think) to fight the winner of cotto v canelo , so it's certainly a good fight to kill time for golovkin, I really believe golovkin will be fighting for the wbc belt next year, if he wins of course.

[erics44]

i think its a good fight

im looking forward to it anyway

[IamInuit]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

Well, Hagler did make his name off of x welter stars that moved up. So did Monzon and Hopkins.

The Kazaks problem is different and if you will 3 fold. This "A-side" posing as champions wont fight him. None of the other 3 had that problem. He's destroyed everyone he's fought and even when he's a mandatory and aired out the division and all thats left is unification, the one falsely recognized as the REAL champion wont fight him holding top spot hostage and putting on farcical defenses. Those 3 never dealt with that either. And finally the welters wont move up and fight him. They did for those 3.

It's all true. But the big difference for Haglers era was the best Welters were big. The best welters now started well below welter and have maxed out size wise. There's a big difference between guys 5'10/6'1 and guys 5'6/5'8

Sorry but that's not true. Most welters of yesterday started out much lighter also. In addition Hagler fought them way out of their prime and at a weight outside their prime. Guys like Floyd and Manny are anomalies not the norm. Most welters today are natural middleweights fighting at 47. In addition the Kazak is a small middleweight.

[Ron Swanson]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

Well, Hagler did make his name off of x welter stars that moved up. So did Monzon and Hopkins.

The Kazaks problem is different and if you will 3 fold. This "A-side" posing as champions wont fight him. None of the other 3 had that problem. He's destroyed everyone he's fought and even when he's a mandatory and aired out the division and all thats left is unification, the one falsely recognized as the REAL champion wont fight him holding top spot hostage and putting on farcical defenses. Those 3 never dealt with that either. And finally the welters wont move up and fight him. They did for those 3.

It's all true. But the big difference for Haglers era was the best Welters were big. The best welters now started well below welter and have maxed out size wise. There's a big difference between guys 5'10/6'1 and guys 5'6/5'8

Sorry but that's not true. Most welters of yesterday started out much lighter also. In addition Hagler fought them way out of their prime and at a weight outside their prime. Guys like Floyd and Manny are anomalies not the norm. Most welters today are natural middleweights fighting at 47. In addition the Kazak is a small middleweight.

I didn't say most. I said the best. Manny and Floyd are far smaller than Leonard and Hearns

[IamInuit]

He'll find someone worthy before his prime ends. I remember listening to Jake Lamotta talk about Marvin Haglar- he said- Haglar wasn't that good because he didn't have real competition in his era LOL!

Haglar is probably saying the same thing about GGG.

Well, Hagler did make his name off of x welter stars that moved up. So did Monzon and Hopkins.

The Kazaks problem is different and if you will 3 fold. This "A-side" posing as champions wont fight him. None of the other 3 had that problem. He's destroyed everyone he's fought and even when he's a mandatory and aired out the division and all thats left is unification, the one falsely recognized as the REAL champion wont fight him holding top spot hostage and putting on farcical defenses. Those 3 never dealt with that either. And finally the welters wont move up and fight him. They did for those 3.

It's all true. But the big difference for Haglers era was the best Welters were big. The best welters now started well below welter and have maxed out size wise. There's a big difference between guys 5'10/6'1 and guys 5'6/5'8

Sorry but that's not true. Most welters of yesterday started out much lighter also. In addition Hagler fought them way out of their prime and at a weight outside their prime. Guys like Floyd and Manny are anomalies not the norm. Most welters today are natural middleweights fighting at 47. In addition the Kazak is a small middleweight.

I didn't say most. I said the best. Manny and Floyd are far smaller than Leonard and Hearns

Like I said they are rare and Ray walked around as a welter earlier in his career also. Point is after the hair splitting is gone, the Kazak has dominated a much better group of middleweight "opponents"
then most middleweight champions did before him. Another fact is that the three mentioned made their names on the back of x welters and the star welters wont move up to fight the Kaz, the rest of the middle weights run for the hills, make up weight classes that dont exist while calling themselves champions or using lame excuses like "a-side". Now that Kid Ovaltine has announced his entrance to 168 "cause its better suited " for him you can add jumping up to avoid him to the list. All of this has unfolded in front of everyone.