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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Why didn't he just drink the water?
    IV is far more effective if you go to hospital and need hydrated they don't say hear drink some water

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Someone people on Twitter going nuts over this lol saying usada have banned IV rehydration is this true ? It can't be IV is so much better for the athlete it just doesn't make sense

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    What an article by Hauser. Gonna take two goes to get through it.

    USADA allows Mayweather to determine when the testing begins. That leaves a long period of time during which there are no checks on what substances he might put into his body.

    “Mayweather is not doing ‘Olympic-style testing,’” Conte states. What he could be doing is this. The fight is over. First, he uses these drugs for tissue repair. Then he can stay on them until he announces his next fight, at which time he’s the one who decides when the next round of testing starts. And by the time testing starts, the drugs have cleared his system.

    The whole concept of one man dictating the testing schedule is wrong. But USADA lets Mayweather do it. USADA is not doing effective comprehensive testing on Floyd Mayweather. Testing for four or five weeks before a fight is nonsense.”

    “It’s bizarre,” Don Catlin says with regard to the retroactive therapeutic use exemption that USADA granted to Mayweather. “It’s very troubling to me. USADA has yet to explain to my satisfaction why Mayweather needed an IV infusion. There might be a valid explanation, but I don’t know what it is.”
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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    USADA allows Mayweather to determine when the testing begins. That leaves a long period of time during which there are no checks on what substances he might put into his body.

    “Mayweather is not doing ‘Olympic-style testing,’” Conte states. What he could be doing is this. The fight is over. First, he uses these drugs for tissue repair. Then he can stay on them until he announces his next fight, at which time he’s the one who decides when the next round of testing starts. And by the time testing starts, the drugs have cleared his system.

    The whole concept of one man dictating the testing schedule is wrong. But USADA lets Mayweather do it. USADA is not doing effective comprehensive testing on Floyd Mayweather. Testing for four or five weeks before a fight is nonsense.”

    The IV part of this really was just rehydration and vitamins. I don't think Floyd would have done anything dodgy the day before the biggest money fight in history.

    The crucial part for me is the bit above. Floyd knows who he's going to fight long before he announces it. It's throwing money away not announcing it further and having more time to promote it.

    I've always said there isn't any proper testing in boxing. Proper testing means random testing 365 days a year. WADA, another drug testing body, has offered totally free random testing to every top professional fighter. So far the only guy who signed up for it is Nonito Donaire. Not one other fighter is taking advantage of a free service that would allow them to show the world that they're a clean fighter. Res ipsa loquitur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Someone people on Twitter going nuts over this lol saying usada have banned IV rehydration is this true ? It can't be IV is so much better for the athlete it just doesn't make sense
    Yeah better for someone in a medical emergency.
    Just drink some lucozade sport and be done with it.

    The moment you start getting needles involved in sports you are asking for trouble.
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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    I wonder how much Floyd had to pay for a Therapeutic Use Exemption

    FFS though. TUE for IV just to be TBE. He really is the Carl Lewis of boxing
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    "This sort of IV use is clearly against the rules. Also, from a medical point of view, if they’re administering what they said they did, it doesn’t make sense to me. There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits."
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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    They have nothing period! No proof of anything. Cherry picking at the highest level because guys like Hauser are still upset. They needed some reason to cash that card in one more time since the fight was not competitive.

    Its like a gossip magazine. No proof, no intent, no nothing but there must be something. Lets just sensationalize it and title the story using words like 'INJECTION"

    Somebody will buy it. They sold 4 million buys with no doubt 2 million of those buys made by haters so it will have legs.

    What a shocker......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "This sort of IV use is clearly against the rules. Also, from a medical point of view, if they’re administering what they said they did, it doesn’t make sense to me. There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits."
    Floyd really can't resist being the outrageous center of attention, remember his pot smoking pussy posse?
    How do we even know for sure, if the IV was truly in his arm? Floyd, the boxing diva!

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Someone people on Twitter going nuts over this lol saying usada have banned IV rehydration is this true ? It can't be IV is so much better for the athlete it just doesn't make sense
    Yeah better for someone in a medical emergency.
    Just drink some lucozade sport and be done with it.

    The moment you start getting needles involved in sports you are asking for trouble.
    I was talking to my wife today about this she is a nurse. It's supposed to be the best way to get rehydrated and also the best way to recive vitamins but obviously it can also be used for bad things like flushing out your system so it goes both ways. I suppose if your a top athlete you would want the best treatments and I'm sure if Floyd was cheating he would be smart enough for it never to come out he's certainly got enough money to keep it quiet. It's funny how the Floyd haters are willing to believe anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    I was talking to my wife today about this she is a nurse. It's supposed to be the best way to get rehydrated and also the best way to recive vitamins but obviously it can also be used for bad things like flushing out your system so it goes both ways. I suppose if your a top athlete you would want the best treatments and I'm sure if Floyd was cheating he would be smart enough for it never to come out he's certainly got enough money to keep it quiet. It's funny how the Floyd haters are willing to believe anything.
    That's all well and good but as a professional, certainly Floyd knows that there are guidelines and protocols which must be adhered to in order for the sport to be a sport and not some side show. So far nobody has accused Floyd of doping and in fact if anyone is in trouble at the moment it is USADA because they granted an exception when they had no authority to do so.


    What are "Floyd haters" believing that is so outrageous?


    If Floyd Mayweather was able to rehydrate via IV in the comfort of his own home and Manny Pacquiao was not offered that same option, then sir, THAT fight is in my opinion no longer considered a "fair" one and consequences must be paid by the party responsible: USADA...unless of course you delve into tinfoil hat territory and include Floyd in this, which I have gone out of my way not to.


    Again the crux of this issue is not whether or not it happened, it's did USADA play favorites?

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    Its not about the Manny fight at all but that USADA is manipulated and bends to the highest bidder. I had no idea that testing only began at the announcement of a fight being made, rather than as it proclaimed..year round and unannounced. Seems like a system set up to be gamed indeed.

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    "Hard work, dedication"

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Someone people on Twitter going nuts over this lol saying usada have banned IV rehydration is this true ? It can't be IV is so much better for the athlete it just doesn't make sense
    Yeah better for someone in a medical emergency.
    Just drink some lucozade sport and be done with it.

    The moment you start getting needles involved in sports you are asking for trouble.
    I was talking to my wife today about this she is a nurse. It's supposed to be the best way to get rehydrated and also the best way to recive vitamins but obviously it can also be used for bad things like flushing out your system so it goes both ways. I suppose if your a top athlete you would want the best treatments and I'm sure if Floyd was cheating he would be smart enough for it never to come out he's certainly got enough money to keep it quiet. It's funny how the Floyd haters are willing to believe anything.
    Carl Lewis was able to keep it quiet for years.

    But that's not the point. The point is that USADA (who I was definitely 'pro' a few years ago) have given Floyd scope to partake in something quite toxic.

    Also, please realise that Floyd is a known substance user. He loves the odd injection, whether its in his hands or or godknows where else.

    Listen, he gave Manny shit over this for years (no problem with that at my end) so it's only fair that his name gets tarnished with this issue now.

    I'm sure he has managed his career exceptionally well, in all it's facets - Promotion, matchmking, negotiations, training, recovery etc etc... but I think he crosses the line with this. There is contrived and then there is corrupted. Floyd is now a dirty fighter - Your nurse wife even backs me up on this; it's great, it's a medical proceedure that can essentially save lives - but it's not legal in the sport of boxing. Funny how FLOMOS fail to see that.
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