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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    They have nothing period! No proof of anything. Cherry picking at the highest level because guys like Hauser are still upset. They needed some reason to cash that card in one more time since the fight was not competitive.

    Its like a gossip magazine. No proof, no intent, no nothing but there must be something. Lets just sensationalize it and title the story using words like 'INJECTION"

    Somebody will buy it. They sold 4 million buys with no doubt 2 million of those buys made by haters so it will have legs.

    What a shocker......

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Here's the crux of the issue fellas...

    Although the substances contained in the IV were not banned by WADA, whose standards USADA says it follows, the fact that they were given intravenously was not allowed.

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    SB Nation's account said Mayweather's medical team told the collection agents that the IV -- which reportedly included a 250-milliliter mixture of saline and multivitamins and a 500-milliliter mixture of saline and Vitamin C -- was being given to Mayweather for rehydration purposes following the weigh-in.

    WADA rules do not allow intravenous infusions or injections of more than 50 milliliters per six hours "except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations."

    According to the report, WADA bans such injections and infusions because they can be used to "dilute or mask the presence of another substance."

    SB Nation also reported that USADA did not inform the Nevada commission about the IV until May 21, when it sent correspondence to commission officials and Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, notifying them that Mayweather had been given a retroactive therapeutic-use exemption, which was allowed in the contract the fighters signed to cover the drug-testing protocol for the bout. However, when the commission and Top Rank requested more information about it, they learned Mayweather had not applied for the exemption until May 19. It was granted May 20, the report said.




    So there's 0 doubt.....0 doubt...Mayweather had the IV


    Also
    The TUE for Mayweather's IV -- and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time -- was totally unacceptable," Bennett is quoted as saying in the report. "I've made it clear to [USADA CEO] Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did."


    Floyd Mayweather had the IV. FACT.
    No one is saying there were steroids or peds in the IV. FACT.
    The IV rehydration is an issue because it COULD be used to mask banned substances. FACT.
    USADA overstepped it's bounds granting an exemption for Mayweather to use the IV. FACT.

    Does it make Floyd a cheater? Does it ruin Floyd's legacy? Does it tarnish the win over Pacquiao?
    Maybe. No. Maybe.

    If Pacquiao was not granted the same exemption then that is at the least unfair. Floyd has been the best in his field for decades so this one incident doesn't diminish what he has built. Again, if Manny wasn't allowed the same opportunities as Floyd at the least it's unfair, at the most it could be considered cheating. The fight wasn't close, was it due to the IV, was it due to something the IV helped mask? Those are going to be the big questions....but make no doubt, Floyd DID take the IV.

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    They have nothing period! No proof of anything. Cherry picking at the highest level because guys like Hauser are still upset. They needed some reason to cash that card in one more time since the fight was not competitive.

    Its like a gossip magazine. No proof, no intent, no nothing but there must be something. Lets just sensationalize it and title the story using words like 'INJECTION"

    Somebody will buy it. They sold 4 million buys with no doubt 2 million of those buys made by haters so it will have legs.

    What a shocker......
    What is Hauser upset about? Have you read the article? It's not some childish post where he's claiming "look this is why Floyd beat Manny."

    He's exposing what a load of shit the USADA's drug testing is for boxers (especially rich ones).
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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    They have nothing period! No proof of anything. Cherry picking at the highest level because guys like Hauser are still upset. They needed some reason to cash that card in one more time since the fight was not competitive.

    Its like a gossip magazine. No proof, no intent, no nothing but there must be something. Lets just sensationalize it and title the story using words like 'INJECTION"

    Somebody will buy it. They sold 4 million buys with no doubt 2 million of those buys made by haters so it will have legs.

    What a shocker......
    What is Hauser upset about? Have you read the article? It's not some childish post where he's claiming "look this is why Floyd beat Manny."

    He's exposing what a load of shit the USADA's drug testing is for boxers (especially rich ones).

    Please, Hauser tried the drug story more then a year ago and has been hanging on Manny's nutsack for 5 years.

    There is nothing suspect here but the suspicion itself. This is like a bad horror movie that keeps making a sequel. So fucking what if he got an exception for an iv. You cant go from that to what we are seeing here and other places. Its pathetic. The story is sensationalized rubbish and you get that right from the title. They start off with a false assertion and then write the two stories that appear together to fit it. Rag shit but I guess they have to try one last ditch effort for a rematch since they cant justify it by how competitive it was.

    They also knew that there would be naive people all over the place to buy it.

    Hack journalism. Thank God he never had a cup of earl grey in his hand.

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Whats funny is didn't team pacquiao claim mannys vitamins were taken away by them before the fight? I'm not claiming the win over pacquiao was anything more than technique. However I do find it dubious that the self proclaimed best ever had paid through the nose and bent/ bends the rules to insure his victories. The irony just gets me..... IF your "TBE" Whats he afraid of?
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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Please, Hauser tried the drug story more then a year ago and has been hanging on Manny's nutsack for 5 years.
    Hauser's on Manny's nutsack? Okay. What is he upset about though? I honestly don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    So fucking what if he got an exception for an iv
    Well many experts disagree with you and think it's a disgrace.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    They start off with a false assertion.
    The title is - CAN BOXING TRUST USADA? Questions surround drug testing for Mayweather-Pacquiao and other bouts.

    The article then shows a bunch of evidence of why USADA is ineffective (and possibly corrupt).
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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    So the IV is banned in part(perhaps largely) because it can be used as a masking agent, yet nothing in the IV could possibly be detected or lead to a failed test? That means the only recourse for the testing body is to actually witness it? If that's the case why would Floyd even allow anyone to know he got one? It's unfair if Floyd was given an exemption Manny couldn't have gotten(although the painkiller is quite a different thing), and I don't doubt you can't trust USADA any more than just about any other organization in boxing, but this just doesn't seem like a story to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    So fucking what if he got an exception for an iv.
    Well...

    #1 it wasn't USADA's place to grant the exception

    and

    #2 administering an IV can dilute/wash out any PEDs from the system thereby rendering a post fight drug test pretty much worthless.


    Nobody is questioning the result of the fight, they are questioning the tactics used by Floyd and the special treatment given to Floyd by USADA. Floyd was also allowed to do this IV rehydration at his home rather than at a hospital or clinic so questions of oversight on that end are valid as well.

    This isn't a smoking gun saying "Floyd Mayweather's career is a sham!", it's something that happened, that was at the least fairly sketchy and should be studied further....is your curiosity not piqued? I don't like Floyd as a person, I respect the hell out of his skill and don't think he's a cheater....but he could have been handed a SERIOUS boost if Manny Pacquiao was not offered similar treatment.

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Its like a gossip magazine. No proof, no intent, no nothing but there must be something. Lets just sensationalize it and title the story using words like 'INJECTION"



    What a shocker......

    He's exposing what a load of shit the USADA's drug testing is for boxers (especially rich ones).

    Please, Hauser tried the drug story more then a year ago and has been hanging on Manny's nutsack for 5 years.

    There is nothing suspect here but the suspicion itself. This is like a bad horror movie that keeps making a sequel. So fucking what if he got an exception for an iv. You cant go from that to what we are seeing here and other places. Its pathetic. The story is sensationalized rubbish and you get that right from the title. They start off with a false assertion and then write the two stories that appear together to fit it. Rag shit but I guess they have to try one last ditch effort for a rematch since they cant justify it by how competitive it was.

    They also knew that there would be naive people all over the place to buy it.

    Hack journalism. Thank God he never had a cup of earl grey in his hand.
    I've read quite a bit on this today. Especially a few videos on Hauser's actions a few years ago.

    I tend to agree with you, but cant word it without giving credit for those who have ripped on Floyd being guilty of something. They did it with knowledge that supersedes what I could have come up with.
    USADA & NSAC particularly. Both exposed to a degree, one worse than the other. And right b4 his so called last fight- it is being introduced- stinks of him (timing) when to reveal this.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: Mayweather received banned IV injection before Pacquiao fight

    I guess we know why he had enough energy to run all night, then he got sleepy and hugged

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