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    Greys got it spot on. If using full extension and shoulder touching chin, plus in balance, thats it. By leaning onto the front foot to get more distance, you dont the head goes forward with the punch. Leaving you open to counters, of balance with your chin nearer his fist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Greys got it spot on. If using full extension and shoulder touching chin, plus in balance, thats it. By leaning onto the front foot to get more distance, you dont the head goes forward with the punch. Leaving you open to counters, of balance with your chin nearer his fist.
    Coach, it's the first time I post something here, but I have been roaming these forums for some years now, and have learned a great deal and new perspectives from your posts and videos. I would like to ask you, is there any way I could contact you personally? I cannot PM you because I have to have over 25 posts to do that. Thing is, it happens that I am in the UK at the moment and I don't know when I'll have again this opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditsious View Post
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    Greys got it spot on. If using full extension and shoulder touching chin, plus in balance, thats it. By leaning onto the front foot to get more distance, you dont the head goes forward with the punch. Leaving you open to counters, of balance with your chin nearer his fist.
    Coach, it's the first time I post something here, but I have been roaming these forums for some years now, and have learned a great deal and new perspectives from your posts and videos. I would like to ask you, is there any way I could contact you personally? I cannot PM you because I have to have over 25 posts to do that. Thing is, it happens that I am in the UK at the moment and I don't know when I'll have again this opportunity.

    Thanks in advance,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Greys got it spot on. If using full extension and shoulder touching chin, plus in balance, thats it. By leaning onto the front foot to get more distance, you dont the head goes forward with the punch. Leaving you open to counters, of balance with your chin nearer his fist.
    @Scrap: Hi again coach. Thanks for the reply. Sent you a message at FB, but the darn thing probably filters it and saves it to "Other" rather than your Inbox. Please look it up.

    @Andre: I am aware that I somewhat bend the rules of the forums with these posts. Thanks for the understanding. Any chance of somehow allowing me to send PM in Saddo Boxing?

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    no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ditsious View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Greys got it spot on. If using full extension and shoulder touching chin, plus in balance, thats it. By leaning onto the front foot to get more distance, you dont the head goes forward with the punch. Leaving you open to counters, of balance with your chin nearer his fist.
    @Scrap: Hi again coach. Thanks for the reply. Sent you a message at FB, but the darn thing probably filters it and saves it to "Other" rather than your Inbox. Please look it up.

    @Andre: I am aware that I somewhat bend the rules of the forums with these posts. Thanks for the understanding. Any chance of somehow allowing me to send PM in Saddo Boxing?
    I didnt know you couldnt private message mate, I get them from people who havent been here long what does it say? I'll try to look into it but Im not the owner of the site and havent got those controls myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    By leaning onto the front foot to get more distance, you dont the head goes forward with the punch. Leaving you open to counters, of balance with your chin nearer his fist.
    thats the way archie moore threw the jab. he was asked in an interview leading into his fight with rocky marciano does the power of a jab come from pushing off of the back foot and he said in no uncertain terms that this is wrong and that the jab must be thrown from the front foot. he said that in boxing the front foot is the key and that everything you do in boxing is to be done around it.

    archie moore is an interesting fighter. he does everything from the front foot leaning in and sending body weight over it. i think that by leaning in toward punches you shorten where the punches are going to go thereby giving you a lot of room to pull away from where you just set that punch to go. moore does this a lot. i think it was why he was hard to hit. he gives you a target. he takes it away. he already knows where your punch is going to go because he made it go there.

    i think he threw jabs from the front foot because he always wanted to have body weight over the front foot. he wanted body weight to be over the front foot because he pushed off of it to pull back and away. that is to say that he would be leaning in and sending body weight over the front foot to shorten your punches and then push off of it to pull back and away to make you miss. floyd mayweather fights this way when he is sending his body weight over his front foot and leaning in then pushing off of it and pulling back and away to throw his pull counter. its the same thing those two are doing.

    is archie moore wrong? your point that by jabbing from the front foot you throw your body forward into counters is true. you leave out that by jabbing from the front foot you can't send your body weight from back foot to front foot when you throw a right hand because your body weight starts out already on the front foot. rocky marciano was good at throwing a right hand because he fought from a stance that would have his body weight over his back foot. i think that is why he jabbed by pushing off of the back foot too. that is to say that he had to jab this way to throw the right hand the way he needed to throw it for the style he wanted to have to work the way he wanted it to work. i think the same thing is true for moore.

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    Interesting, every fighter that beat Moore boxed of there back foot, plus He got beat a lot Charles, Burley to name two. I think today we understand the bodys mechanics a bit better. Having said that dont think Boxing techniques have improved, lots of reasons for that. one reason is understanding what moves you and why. Answer what moves you is your environment, in boxing its the floor, basic newtons law. why the body moves is to take the head where it wants to go, not the other way round, Mayweather, does it superbly. So has great propreioceptive ability. Interesting post.
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