Wilders Skill to Power ratio is waaay off.

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What I mean by this is, yea he has power and that is not up for dispute.

But look how long he went with Molina and Duhaupes(?). It seems that if someone actually knows how to defend a little, he wont get the 1st-4th round KOs.

I mean ok yes, he is still getting the job done but look at his 3 hardest fights (his last 3), Stiverne, Molina and duhaupes....

Do any of them last 3 rounds with Lewis? Bruno? Tyson? Holyfield? McColl? Bowe? Wlad? Joshua?

Stiverne maybe but he does get KOd by pretty much everyone on that list.

In conclusion: He is wild by name and nature, he accuracy is horrible (see his end to Audley fight where he missed like 10 hooks in about 3 seconds) hehas power but does not deliver it well and would be more effective being relaxed and waiting for his shots.

Hindsight is a great thing. It's easy to talk about past heavyweights as if they were great but I'm 34 so I remember what people used to say about the fighters you mention when they were fighting.

Bruno ? When he was fighting he was seen as a stiff. A guy who look liked he should be in Mr Olympia but had a weak chin. His punching power at the very top level was suspect. Who was the best guy he knocked out ? Bugner ? Carl Williams ? Gerrie Cotzee ? cmon

McCall ? He was never seen as power puncher. So why you think he would got Stiverne, Molina or Duhappas out of there is beyone me.But probably had on of the greatest chins in heavyweight history.

Tyson ? OK. Now you're talking. I agree. A prime Tyson would have more than likely made mincemeat out Stiverne, Molina, Duhappas. Though remember even Tyson was taken the distance more than once and in his prime by Tony Tucker and Bonecrusher Smith ? Were Tony Tucker or Bonecrusher Smith that much better that than Stiverne, Molina or Duhaupes ?

Lewis ? For some reason. I don't what it is. But Lennox Lewis never really won people over. I don't know what that is. He fought Tyson went it did not matter and both where past there prime. And he never fought Bowe. He could not get Holyfield out of there in 24 rounds even though Holyfield was natural cruiserweight.

Would he have got Stiverne, Molina and duhaupes out of there ? Well he was knocked ot cold by Rahman and controversial knocked out by McCall (I thought he should have been allowed to continue) he did go the distance with Ray Mercer, David Tua and the little known Zeljko Mavrovic.

Joshua ? Too early to say

Bowe ? Not so sure

Wlad ? Maybe

All in all. It's easy to look back and say 'they were good"

Stated very well D.

Every hall of famer went the distance with more than a few nobodies. How time makes us remember what we love and forget what we choose.
Wilder is credited with 326 out of 580 @ 56% and that is horrible accuracy?
Most HW's either fight forward or on the move. This very raw boxer did both, Damn!!!

Tyson for example can only fight forward, push him back he is done. James Toney superb in the phone booth, but make him extend his arms he becomes limited. Hell, Wladimir never fights inside. He clinches till the ref intervene and is technically fighting at a distance where he utilizes that jab and long reach.
When Corie Sanders knocked him the fuck out, it was in close quarters with no time for strategizing.
For all of Wilder's faults: He used his legs 1st few rounds to move back and counter, next few rounds he fought in the inside. then backed up Duhaupas, while retaining his power into the 11th And knew how to finish off with a flurry with both hands.

Amazing we get a fight that didn't require cable, ppv and is pretty entertaining, yet we still find reason to shit all over the event.
I'm not looking for Wilder to become a fighter that prefaces on defence.then I might cry that he is a safety first fighter. I don't care that he fights backwards, so as long as his hands move.
Fact is... I don't think he has to gain a certain level of skill to beat Wlad.
He needs to know his limitations, stamina and punch resistance.
He is tenacious, determined, and aims to please the crowd. The ingredients that will either cause knockouts or to get knocked out. Either way I am quickly becoming a Deontay Wilder supporter!!!!!!

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What I mean by this is, yea he has power and that is not up for dispute.

But look how long he went with Molina and Duhaupes(?). It seems that if someone actually knows how to defend a little, he wont get the 1st-4th round KOs.

I mean ok yes, he is still getting the job done but look at his 3 hardest fights (his last 3), Stiverne, Molina and duhaupes....

Do any of them last 3 rounds with Lewis? Bruno? Tyson? Holyfield? McColl? Bowe? Wlad? Joshua?

Stiverne maybe but he does get KOd by pretty much everyone on that list.

In conclusion: He is wild by name and nature, he accuracy is horrible (see his end to Audley fight where he missed like 10 hooks in about 3 seconds) hehas power but does not deliver it well and would be more effective being relaxed and waiting for his shots.

Hindsight is a great thing. It's easy to talk about past heavyweights as if they were great but I'm 34 so I remember what people used to say about the fighters you mention when they were fighting.

Bruno ? When he was fighting he was seen as a stiff. A guy who look liked he should be in Mr Olympia but had a weak chin. His punching power at the very top level was suspect. Who was the best guy he knocked out ? Bugner ? Carl Williams ? Gerrie Cotzee ? cmon

McCall ? He was never seen as power puncher. So why you think he would got Stiverne, Molina or Duhappas out of there is beyone me.But probably had on of the greatest chins in heavyweight history.

Tyson ? OK. Now you're talking. I agree. A prime Tyson would have more than likely made mincemeat out Stiverne, Molina, Duhappas. Though remember even Tyson was taken the distance more than once and in his prime by Tony Tucker and Bonecrusher Smith ? Were Tony Tucker or Bonecrusher Smith that much better that than Stiverne, Molina or Duhaupes ?

Lewis ? For some reason. I don't what it is. But Lennox Lewis never really won people over. I don't know what that is. He fought Tyson went it did not matter and both where past there prime. And he never fought Bowe. He could not get Holyfield out of there in 24 rounds even though Holyfield was natural cruiserweight.

Would he have got Stiverne, Molina and duhaupes out of there ? Well he was knocked ot cold by Rahman and controversial knocked out by McCall (I thought he should have been allowed to continue) he did go the distance with Ray Mercer, David Tua and the little known Zeljko Mavrovic.

Joshua ? Too early to say

Bowe ? Not so sure

Wlad ? Maybe

All in all. It's easy to look back and say 'they were good"

Stated very well D.

Every hall of famer went the distance with more than a few nobodies. How time makes us remember what we love and forget what we choose.
Wilder is credited with 326 out of 580 @ 56% and that is horrible accuracy?
Most HW's either fight forward or on the move. This very raw boxer did both, Damn!!!

Tyson for example can only fight forward, push him back he is done. James Toney superb in the phone booth, but make him extend his arms he becomes limited. Hell, Wladimir never fights inside. He clinches till the ref intervene and is technically fighting at a distance where he utilizes that jab and long reach.
When Corie Sanders knocked him the fuck out, it was in close quarters with no time for strategizing.
For all of Wilder's faults: He used his legs 1st few rounds to move back and counter, next few rounds he fought in the inside. then backed up Duhaupas, while retaining his power into the 11th And knew how to finish off with a flurry with both hands.

Amazing we get a fight that didn't require cable, ppv and is pretty entertaining, yet we still find reason to shit all over the event.
I'm not looking for Wilder to become a fighter that prefaces on defence.then I might cry that he is a safety first fighter. I don't care that he fights backwards, so as long as his hands move.
Fact is... I don't think he has to gain a certain level of skill to beat Wlad.
He needs to know his limitations, stamina and punch resistance.
He is tenacious, determined, and aims to please the crowd. The ingredients that will either cause knockouts or to get knocked out. Either way I am quickly becoming a Deontay Wilder supporter!!!!!!

Great post! Is Wilder the best heavyweight ever? No! If you were able to put Wilder in against some greats from the past would he win? Who knows, probably not, but maybe. Does he have the punching power and the skills to compete and win against the heavyweights in front of him today? Yes! Will he be able to get that job done? Some of us think so, some of us don't.
Boxing fans, like all sports fans are never satisfied. in my opinion. Is that good or bad? Just being human? Insanity?