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    Default Re: Lucas Matthysse-Viktor Postol - Sat/HBO/BN. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    If he made 140, he is! All fighters cut weight.... Great finish, Matthyse had actually been hurt pretty bad in each of the previous rounds, then just waded right into that right. Funny game boxing is, can't believe we can think of Matthyse as a guy who is past it now.

    He may have made the weight..... but you rarely see such huge size differences in the ring. Postol's not only that much taller.... he looked a lot heavier. It's guys like Chavez Jr. who have perfected that art. Not something I like to watch.
    I didn't see this fight, but it's something I don't like to see either.

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    Default Re: Lucas Matthysse-Viktor Postol - Sat/HBO/BN. Fact.

    Wish I could have seen this one! Have to catch it when I can.

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    Ok, but Chavez Jr deserves flack because he doesn't make the weights, or uses PEDs to do so and fucks around the contracts at the last minute etc. Postol is just tall for his division. If Thomas Hearns were fighting today would people slag him off for fighting at welter? Did people knock Paul Williams for it? Just seems dumb, making weight is making weight, any fighter is free to move down if they are capable of it.

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    It's not logical to bash someone for being big for the weight if they aren't cheating to make weight or failing to make weight. Just sounds like sour grapes.
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    I'm split on rehydration clauses but no fighter should blow up 20 lbs next day, its unsafe and unprofessional I believe. Not that Postol did but an additional size advantage is just that. Then again..a guy could be drying out at a disadvantage and coming in with lbs of unsettled wash and junk food can and has backfired. Hindsights 20-20 but truth is Postol was given more than a chance prior and style wise he proved more than capable. Its a nightmare style

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    I don't care that Matthysse quit (He said he went blind. Fair enough mate) but to me he seemed to quit around the 7th round. He couldn't deal with Postol's range. To get past a jab like that then get smashed with right hands and constantly tied up must be sickening.

    Matthysee should probably call it a day. Postol proved himself to be one of the top dogs of the division. Nice.
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    Yep, you could tell Lucas was just hating life in the last few rounds, and he was getting more and more hurt by the same punches he had been taking ok. He probably could have gotten up but I can't call that quitting at all, Postol really broke him down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I'm split on rehydration clauses but no fighter should blow up 20 lbs next day, its unsafe and unprofessional I believe. Not that Postol did but an additional size advantage is just that. Then again..a guy could be drying out at a disadvantage and coming in with lbs of unsettled wash and junk food can and has backfired. Hindsights 20-20 but truth is Postol was given more than a chance prior and style wise he proved more than capable. Its a nightmare style


    Exactly my thoughts on the matter, although admittedly if it was within the rules then it was within the rules. I never begrudged Hearns his size advantage... and I'm not gonna begrudge Postol's. Chavez Jr. is something else altogether, though. He cheats, bends the rules, and does whatever he can to outweigh his opponent by 30 pounds at fight time..... probably to make up for his total lack of skill and dedication.

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    Default Re: Lucas Matthysse-Viktor Postol - Sat/HBO/BN. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    It's not logical to bash someone for being big for the weight if they aren't cheating to make weight or failing to make weight. Just sounds like sour grapes.
    Agreed. These things need to be viewed on a case by case basis under the present rules. This is simply not the same as what Jr pulled. Perhaps they should have rehydration clauses if they are not going to reinstall same day weigh ins?

    Trouble is, highlight reels pay the bills. Its a KNOCKOUT or bust era and still a blood sucking ppv one. The majority of purchasers don't even follow the sport and have low attention spans. Boxing is more about the business then it is about the boxing and the weight shifting is a major part and cause of their coin revenue.


    Ps- It is sanctioned cheating. So are catchweights for title fights when the champ has to melt for a challenger especially. Again because of that coin.
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    I was gutted Matthysse lost, but to be fair he was being rabbit punching scum all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I was gutted Matthysse lost, but to be fair he was being rabbit punching scum all night.
    Caught that, I agree, those back of the head shots are dangerous and I hate to see them myself. Some of it was Postol holding but a lot were Lucas frustration. I was dumbfounded how well Postol had Lucas number. What do the Roach haters say now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
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    I was gutted Matthysse lost, but to be fair he was being rabbit punching scum all night.
    Caught that, I agree, those back of the head shots are dangerous and I hate to see them myself. Some of it was Postol holding but a lot were Lucas frustration. I was dumbfounded how well Postol had Lucas number. What do the Roach haters say now.
    Didn't the ref stop the rabbit punching?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    I was gutted Matthysse lost, but to be fair he was being rabbit punching scum all night.
    Caught that, I agree, those back of the head shots are dangerous and I hate to see them myself. Some of it was Postol holding but a lot were Lucas frustration. I was dumbfounded how well Postol had Lucas number. What do the Roach haters say now.
    Didn't the ref stop the rabbit punching?
    It only seemed to stop the last round or two of the fight when Lucas was totally disheartened and could no longer get in close.

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