August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazier

[Bill Paxtom]

Ali behaved like an ass for his behaviour and comments to Joe. Ali admitted it, apologised and wished he never did it.

Get over it and remember the fights.

Muhammad Ali 'never' apologized for anything.

It was 'half-hearted' gesture at best from a 'Certified Sell-Out'.

[Master]

Ali behaved like an ass for his behaviour and comments to Joe. Ali admitted it, apologised and wished he never did it.

Get over it and remember the fights.

Muhammad Ali 'never' apologized for anything.

It was 'half-hearted' gesture at best from a 'Certified Sell-Out'.

He did now get a life and move on.

[Bill Paxtom]

Are You Aware

That the Muhammad Ali Sales and Marketing Team were promoting the sale
of these blue Tee-Shirts.

From August 1975, thru 1980.

Yea, that Muhammad Ali was 'some-kind-of-guy'.

[Master]

So what? Joe could have sold T shirts about Ali's infidelity.

[brocktonblockbust]

So what? Joe could have sold T shirts about Ali's infidelity.

True, but the point is, HE DIDN'T. Because Smokin' Joe was a Class Act, something scumbag Ali could never come close to being. Joe was also a faithful family man, while Ali whored around the world acting like a devout Muslim and fucking everything that moved (and some things that DIDN'T move).

Cheated on HIS wife/WIVES incessantly. What an Uncle Tom, trying to copy Elvis Presley. bwAAAAAHAHAHA

[Master]

So what? Joe could have sold T shirts about Ali's infidelity.

True, but the point is, HE DIDN'T. Because Smokin' Joe was a Class Act, something scumbag Ali could never come close to being. Joe was also a faithful family man, while Ali whored around the world acting like a devout Muslim and fucking everything that moved (and some things that DIDN'T move).

Cheated on HIS wife/WIVES incessantly. What an Uncle Tom, trying to copy Elvis Presley. bwAAAAAHAHAHA

In that ring he was great do not forget that

[Bill Paxtom]

Look at this Mister Master.

Isn't it 'Fucking Hilarious'.

[walrus]

So what? Joe could have sold T shirts about Ali's infidelity.

True, but the point is, HE DIDN'T. Because Smokin' Joe was a Class Act, something scumbag Ali could never come close to being. Joe was also a faithful family man, while Ali whored around the world acting like a devout Muslim and fucking everything that moved (and some things that DIDN'T move).

Cheated on HIS wife/WIVES incessantly. What an Uncle Tom, trying to copy Elvis Presley. bwAAAAAHAHAHA

In that ring he was great do not forget that

Yes, Ali was a great fighter and he may have been one of the first to create a brand the way he did. Yes, he said some dirty stuff to sell tickets but he showed boxers how to make the fight build up profitable. It's a shame Ali is in the state he is today, it would be great to hear him talk on all that stuff he did back then. It was easy to get caught up in the racial bs in the US in the 70's. I truly dislike what Ali did to Joe. Had Joe had People in his camp who were more adept at counter punching the Ali nonsense it would have been interesting. What I truly disliked reading about Ali is how he was prone to using his thumb on opponents eyes. That and some other tactics rather bothered me as I always have Ali on a pedestal. Still, the man is ONE of the all time greats, I don't subscribe to the greatest of all time but certainly give Ali his due. God, it really hurt me to watch that Spinks fight, I know Ali got a good deal of money but look at his face in the ring prior to the fight, I truly believe Ali was already ill before that fight and that just put the icing on the cake. That fight should have been stopped very early. It was one of the saddest fights I have ever seen.

[C.J.Rock]

So what? Joe could have sold T shirts about Ali's infidelity.

True, but the point is, HE DIDN'T. Because Smokin' Joe was a Class Act, something scumbag Ali could never come close to being. Joe was also a faithful family man, while Ali whored around the world acting like a devout Muslim and fucking everything that moved (and some things that DIDN'T move).

Cheated on HIS wife/WIVES incessantly. What an Uncle Tom, trying to copy Elvis Presley. bwAAAAAHAHAHA

Tell me Have you read Joe Fraziers life story?? Obviously not Joe had two women pregnant at same time in his early days Face it these guys are fighters not Angels.
I ve done things I'm not proud of in my life & wish I could take them back. We all have
Joes book Smiokin Joe is well worth a read

[Bill Paxtom]

So what? Joe could have sold T shirts about Ali's infidelity.

True, but the point is, HE DIDN'T. Because Smokin' Joe was a Class Act, something scumbag Ali could never come close to being. Joe was also a faithful family man, while Ali whored around the world acting like a devout Muslim and fucking everything that moved (and some things that DIDN'T move).

Cheated on HIS wife/WIVES incessantly. What an Uncle Tom, trying to copy Elvis Presley. bwAAAAAHAHAHA

Tell me Have you read Joe Fraziers life story?? Obviously not Joe had two women pregnant at same time in his early days Face it these guys are fighters not Angels.
I ve done things I'm not proud of in my life & wish I could take them back. We all have
Joes book Smiokin Joe is well worth a read

C.J. Rock,

You are violating the Forum Rules.

Follow the Thread Title.

[walrus]

In that doc we talked about called facing Ali Foreman said Frazier called him saying " George, Ali keeps calling me an uncle Tom, I don't want people thinking I'm peeping in other people's windows, I'm not a pervert." Frazier thought an uncle Tom was a peeping Tom. Kind of classic, shows how little Frazier grasped all the bs Ali was doing.

Brian Gumble, a great sports writer, of African descent, also wrote an article called Joe Frazier, the white fighter in a Blackman body. He now regrets he ever wrote it but says it was easy to get caught up in that stuff back then.

[C.J.Rock]

Ali behaved like an ass for his behaviour and comments to Joe. Ali admitted it, apologised and wished he never did it.

Get over it and remember the fights.

Muhammad Ali 'never' apologized for anything.

It was 'half-hearted' gesture at best from a 'Certified Sell-Out'.

Bullshit!!! Joe himself told us that Ali did apologize for what he did to him. Joe understood most of it was purely hype but the thing that bothered him most was his kids being teased saying their Daddy was a Gorilla. Ali had silly names for every one of his opponents The Mummy, The Rabbit, The Washerwoman etc it was part of Ali's charisma.. He himself was called The Louisville Lip. Watch Facing Ali not one of Ali's opponents had ill feelings the all respected him
Joe forgave him its time you haters did too You condemn Ali for things he said now read what you've said about a very sick man Don't be hypocritical

[walrus]

Ali behaved like an ass for his behaviour and comments to Joe. Ali admitted it, apologised and wished he never did it.

Get over it and remember the fights.

Muhammad Ali 'never' apologized for anything.

It was 'half-hearted' gesture at best from a 'Certified Sell-Out'.

Bullshit!!! Joe himself told us that Ali did apologize for what he did to him. Joe understood most of it was purely hype but the thing that bothered him most was his kids being teased saying their Daddy was a Gorilla. Ali had silly names for every one of his opponents The Mummy, The Rabbit, The Washerwoman etc it was part of Ali's charisma.. He himself was called The Louisville Lip. Watch Facing Ali not one of Ali's opponents had ill feelings the all respected him
Joe forgave him its time you haters did too You condemn Ali for things he said now read what you've said about a very sick man Don't be hypocritical

True but Ali was intentionally brutal word wise to Joe for some time. It hurt Joe, Ali ended up getting black America to dislike him. I'm not an Ali hater but but he went overboard with Joe and the apology took a while. Still, they both brought great things to boxing.

[Bill Paxtom]

Tuesday ~ August 26, 1975

Muhammad Ali entered the 'Four Seasons' Restaurant wearing a blue Tee-Shirt that bore a Gorilla,
with the words 'Manila Gorilla' stenciled on them.

Muhammad marched right up to Joe Frazier who was sitting behind a long table.

Smokin' Joe had been 'tipped off' of what was going to happen. To Joe Frazier, it was no big deal,
and nothing that Muhammad Ali did {or could do} would bother him.

The 'Scum Bag' had 20 or so of his 'Clown Posse' behind him.

Joe Frazier was smiling, as he knew the show was rigged.

Smokin' Joe blurted out > "I've seen this all before, on Late Night TV reruns at 2:00 AM in the Morning."

Both Angleo Dundee and Drew 'Bundini' Brown were right by Muhammad's side, along with a host
of 20 others.

Muhammad Ali moved close to Smokin' Joe and yelled >

"I'm here to agitate Frazier. He is 'The Gorilla from Manila'. He shouldn't be allowed out of the Zoo. He should
be put back in his cage at the Zoo with a bunch of bananas."

"Somebody get the Zoo-Keeper, and tell then that the Gorilla broke out his cage and snuck into a New York City
restaurant wearing clothes."

[Master]

So Joe played along nice touch.