Mickey Vann: "Klitschko’s place in history is stronger than Mayweather’s"

[p4pking]

Brilliant. Wlad has had the heart to come back from KO defeats(even though he didn't actually avenge those losses)

He avenged vs Brewster, Corrie Sanders has passed away, and Ross Purrity is retired or whatever does anyone think Ross Purrity right now could beat Wlad again

Oh come on, did I say he should do it now? He could have rematched all those guys right away, instead Vitali beat Purrity and Sanders and he waited years to even rematch Brewster. Wouldn't it have shown a bit more heart go get right back in the ring against a guy who beat you? Lots of greats have done this.. Hell even Floyd showed he wasn't scared of giving Castillo an immediate rematch, surely that counts for something?

[Master]

Vann is wrong and has no right to say that but just shows how weak Floyd's legacy really is.

[beenKOed]

Vann is wrong and has no right to say that but just shows how weak Floyd's legacy really is.

I agree, neither one of those fighters is worth a can of beans. I like the way you get right to the bottom if things, Sir.

[ono]

Vann is wrong and has no right to say that but just shows how weak Floyd's legacy really is.

It only seems weak when it is analysed by someone who knows absolutely nothing about boxing.

However you want to dress it up, he has beaten,

Carlos Hernandez, Gennaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corrales, Gatti, Hatton, Judah, Mosley, Maidana, Cotto, De La Hoya, Guererro, Canelo, Marquez and Pacquiao.

I don't know how anyone can say that is 'weak'

[Master]

Vann is wrong and has no right to say that but just shows how weak Floyd's legacy really is.

It only seems weak when it is analysed by someone who knows absolutely nothing about boxing.

However you want to dress it up, he has beaten,

Carlos Hernandez, Gennaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corrales, Gatti, Hatton, Judah, Mosley, Maidana, Cotto, De La Hoya, Guererro, Canelo, Marquez and Pacquiao.

I don't know how anyone can say that is 'weak'

Gennaro Hernandez retired after the fight so was past it, Castillo could have gone either way and close, Hatton and Marquez was not a welterweight, Judah lost his previous fight, Oscar, Shane, Cotto and Manny were too old, other names are not worth putting on your legacy.

Lets see how good Canelo is.

I give you Corrales as his only signature fight

[El Kabong]

Brilliant. Wlad has had the heart to come back from KO defeats(even though he didn't actually avenge those losses)

He avenged vs Brewster, Corrie Sanders has passed away, and Ross Purrity is retired or whatever does anyone think Ross Purrity right now could beat Wlad again

Oh come on, did I say he should do it now? He could have rematched all those guys right away, instead Vitali beat Purrity and Sanders and he waited years to even rematch Brewster. Wouldn't it have shown a bit more heart go get right back in the ring against a guy who beat you? Lots of greats have done this.. Hell even Floyd showed he wasn't scared of giving Castillo an immediate rematch, surely that counts for something?

Different fights, different fighters....I'll admit it Wlad wasn't going to win an immediate rematch with Sanders, that loss shook him terribly, and the loss to Brewster shook him so badly even his brother told him to retire. He could have fought Purrity again early on in his career, maybe he should have, but I can't speak for Purrity and what he was doing in the aftermath of their fight.

Point is, Wlad handled the adversity, he corrected himself, he fixed his style, and now he's one of the greatest heavyweight champions of all time.

[p4pking]

I didn't dispute that.. My point was; using the fact Wlad suffered those defeats and came back as some way of ranking him above Mayweather or saying he has more heart for it, is a big fat joke.

[VG_Addict]

Who is Mickey Vann, and why should I think he has any credibility?

Oh, he's apparently the ref who scored Whitaker-Chavez a draw. He has no credibility whatsoever.

[Beanz]

Mickey and Kenny Bayliss should do Strictly or Dancing with the Stars or at least put some giant dusters on their feet and start a camp floor polishing service