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He needs to fight Ward because MW is shit. If he actually wants to prove anything he fights Ward finally. Not "maybe in 2014" "maybe in 2015" and now "maybe in 2017". GGG is far far better than that shit division. If he wants a challenge he fights Ward. If he wants to get rich beating up men who have no chance against him he keeps fighting at MW. Not one fighter there has a sliver of hope against him though. Don't be fooled, these are not fights. These are sanctioned beatings. Does he want a fight is the question
So what you are saying is that both Cotto and Alvarez are bums and him dishing out a 'sanctioned beating' against either of these two would not be impressive?

Yeah I'll go for that.
Cotto was a damn good Jr Welterweight and a good Welterweight. He is not a great MW. Alvarez has never even proven himself to be the top Jr Middleweight, he has never done anything at MW. Not a thing.

Answer this, take your sarcasm and put it aside for a moment and give an honest answer. Do you think either fighter beats him? If I give you 10/1 odds do you take it? He is a much better MW than either.


I never said they were bums, nice job putting words in my mouth by the way, that's a very poor way to debate. It's shameful in fact. If you can't just debate on the merits of the discussion you show yourself to be fraudulent. Intelligent people know that.
You said the MW division was shit, I took that to mean that you were suggesting that both Cotto and Canelo were shit, I actually said in my first post that GGG beats them both easily, I just can not for the life of me see the Ward fight happening any time soon and as you said it would probably 'maybe in 2017'

Sorry if I came across as a little agressive in my post, it wasn't done to cause any offence
No worries man. I'm in an overly aggressive mood today anyway.

I don't think the Ward fight ever happens man. I think they stalled knowing Ward would move up. And once he moves up it's over. I mean it is fall of 2015, maybe in 2017 is the same as saying never as far as I'm concerned. Ward tried to make this fight before moving up because he knew it was now or never.

MW has been weak since the early 90s. And that was just a short stretch after another long weak stretch. The division is historic but for the life of me I can't figure out why. If you look through the history of it it rarely had any depth. But then again Heavyweight is historic too and it rarely had quality depth. The historic divisions are separate from the good divisions.