Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

[Primo Carnera]

If Canelo beats Cotto as I expect and doesn't want to go up in weight, fine. But then he must fight the likes of Andrade and all the other top LMW's around at 154lbs! Not 155 or 157 or any of that crap.
Even if he wants to go to MW, ease himself into the weight and fight some other MW's prior to GGG, again fine, but whatever happens, DON'T try to make GGG Come down to some sort of ridiculous Catchweight.

[Britkid]

Alvarez has a bit of mainstream kudos about him. After Cotto, which I agree he should win, if GGG wants some mainstream buzz to go with boxing fancies appreciation of him, a fight at 155, if that is what is required, makes sense.

[Gandalf]

I hope Cotto beats him up, I really do. CW of 155 pounds? FFS, stay at your weight then and don't even mention the man.

[Primo Carnera]

Alvarez has a bit of mainstream kudos about him. After Cotto, which I agree he should win, if GGG wants some mainstream buzz to go with boxing fancies appreciation of him, a fight at 155, if that is what is required, makes sense.

I think you might be underestimating just how much "Mainstream kudos" GGG has, Especially in the States. I'm pretty certain that he is seen as the next Superstar of Boxing by many people over there, and that's exactly why he has his detractors like Ron Swanson & BBB, because he's relevant . a sort of back handed compliment.
GGG has already said the only fighter he would ever drop down to fight would've been Floyd. He (quite rightly in my opinion) feels that he shouldn't have to be the "B Side" to anybody but Floyd.
And finally, for all the GGG haters who moan that he won't go up in weight, they may get their wishes granted sooner rather than later, because the WBC have already said that if the Cotto/Canelo winner doesn't fight GGG, they will be stripped and GGG will be installed as their Champion. so, he'll have very nearly mopped up the division, and then he will move on, probably to SMW , but probably not for Ward as he will be going North himself for Kovalev (if he ever fights again! )

[Britkid]

Alvarez has a bit of mainstream kudos about him. After Cotto, which I agree he should win, if GGG wants some mainstream buzz to go with boxing fancies appreciation of him, a fight at 155, if that is what is required, makes sense.

I think you might be underestimating just how much "Mainstream kudos" GGG has, Especially in the States. I'm pretty certain that he is seen as the next Superstar of Boxing by many people over there, and that's exactly why he has his detractors like Ron Swanson & BBB, because he's relevant . a sort of back handed compliment.
GGG has already said the only fighter he would ever drop down to fight would've been Floyd. He (quite rightly in my opinion) feels that he shouldn't have to be the "B Side" to anybody but Floyd.
And finally, for all the GGG haters who moan that he won't go up in weight, they may get their wishes granted sooner rather than later, because the WBC have already said that if the Cotto/Canelo winner doesn't fight GGG, they will be stripped and GGG will be installed as their Champion. so, he'll have very nearly mopped up the division, and then he will move on, probably to SMW , but probably not for Ward as he will be going North himself for Kovalev (if he ever fights again! )

I hope you are right. Golovkin does seem to have that special vibe that comes around only every five years or so. But he seems weak politically, and that may hinder him.

[Primo Carnera]

Alvarez has a bit of mainstream kudos about him. After Cotto, which I agree he should win, if GGG wants some mainstream buzz to go with boxing fancies appreciation of him, a fight at 155, if that is what is required, makes sense.

I think you might be underestimating just how much "Mainstream kudos" GGG has, Especially in the States. I'm pretty certain that he is seen as the next Superstar of Boxing by many people over there, and that's exactly why he has his detractors like Ron Swanson & BBB, because he's relevant . a sort of back handed compliment.
GGG has already said the only fighter he would ever drop down to fight would've been Floyd. He (quite rightly in my opinion) feels that he shouldn't have to be the "B Side" to anybody but Floyd.
And finally, for all the GGG haters who moan that he won't go up in weight, they may get their wishes granted sooner rather than later, because the WBC have already said that if the Cotto/Canelo winner doesn't fight GGG, they will be stripped and GGG will be installed as their Champion. so, he'll have very nearly mopped up the division, and then he will move on, probably to SMW , but probably not for Ward as he will be going North himself for Kovalev (if he ever fights again! )

I hope you are right. Golovkin does seem to have that special vibe that comes around only every five years or so. But he seems weak politically wise, and may really hinder him.

I understand what you're saying, and you could be right. We'll have to wait and see.

[Tam Seddon]

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[IamInuit]

How does he even get away with making this statement a few weeks prior to fighting for the Wbc/Ring/Lineal middleweight championship of the world? The ridiculous irony of this thing being that those two never needed the title to be involved to begin with.

Here is where the Wbc with all of its demands of the winner and through statements to the press regarding "orders" that the winner must fight the Kazak in 90 days steps in. They either go on record in response to this telling him he will be stripped or they remove the title from the fraudulent festivities. The Ring should also but of course Oscar owns that.

Its hard to believe just how far this sport has eroded over just one decade.

[TitoFan]

Cotto catches hell for his assumed reluctance to face GGG should he get past Canelo..... but Canelo has even less of an excuse for ducking GGG at 160 and making demands that "supposedly" only Cotto makes. Canelo is younger, and of a bigger frame than Cotto. Canelo can easily fight at 160, whereas for Cotto it's a stretch. So if Cotto gets shit..... Canelo should get double the dose.

But first things first. The Cotto-Canelo fight hasn't even happened. Maybe Canelo should concentrate on Cotto first..... and try to avoid getting his ass kicked by the old man.

[Ron Swanson]

Alvarez has a bit of mainstream kudos about him. After Cotto, which I agree he should win, if GGG wants some mainstream buzz to go with boxing fancies appreciation of him, a fight at 155, if that is what is required, makes sense.

I think you might be underestimating just how much "Mainstream kudos" GGG has, Especially in the States. I'm pretty certain that he is seen as the next Superstar of Boxing by many people over there, and that's exactly why he has his detractors like Ron Swanson & BBB, because he's relevant . a sort of back handed compliment.
GGG has already said the only fighter he would ever drop down to fight would've been Floyd. He (quite rightly in my opinion) feels that he shouldn't have to be the "B Side" to anybody but Floyd.
And finally, for all the GGG haters who moan that he won't go up in weight, they may get their wishes granted sooner rather than later, because the WBC have already said that if the Cotto/Canelo winner doesn't fight GGG, they will be stripped and GGG will be installed as their Champion. so, he'll have very nearly mopped up the division, and then he will move on, probably to SMW , but probably not for Ward as he will be going North himself for Kovalev (if he ever fights again! )

How is being a detractor when I have said for years he is too good for these guys? It blows my mind that years ago I said he was the best middleweight in the world, years ago. And all I want is for him to fight better fighters because I think he is special and that is considered detracting. Really hard to comprehend! This is not any insult to you Primo, many people seem to see asking for better fights as detracting when it comes to GGG

[Primo Carnera]

Alvarez has a bit of mainstream kudos about him. After Cotto, which I agree he should win, if GGG wants some mainstream buzz to go with boxing fancies appreciation of him, a fight at 155, if that is what is required, makes sense.

I think you might be underestimating just how much "Mainstream kudos" GGG has, Especially in the States. I'm pretty certain that he is seen as the next Superstar of Boxing by many people over there, and that's exactly why he has his detractors like Ron Swanson & BBB, because he's relevant . a sort of back handed compliment.
GGG has already said the only fighter he would ever drop down to fight would've been Floyd. He (quite rightly in my opinion) feels that he shouldn't have to be the "B Side" to anybody but Floyd.
And finally, for all the GGG haters who moan that he won't go up in weight, they may get their wishes granted sooner rather than later, because the WBC have already said that if the Cotto/Canelo winner doesn't fight GGG, they will be stripped and GGG will be installed as their Champion. so, he'll have very nearly mopped up the division, and then he will move on, probably to SMW , but probably not for Ward as he will be going North himself for Kovalev (if he ever fights again! )

How is being a detractor when I have said for years he is too good for these guys? It blows my mind that years ago I said he was the best middleweight in the world, years ago. And all I want is for him to fight better fighters because I think he is special and that is considered detracting. Really hard to comprehend! This is not any insult to you Primo, many people seem to see asking for better fights as detracting when it comes to GGG

Ron , firstly no offence taken mate. I understand that you want to see GGG tested, I guess we all do. But it's not all his fault . I think we all agree that nobody really touches him in the MW div. And Canelo and Cotto WILL avoid Him. ok they're not "real MW's, so don't masquerade as such.
So his options are to move up or down in weight.
Move Down- he's only ever said he would move down for Floyd. Who doesn't want to fight Floyd, it's the Golden ticket. It's also the only Challenge that is remotely difficult for Floyd. For the record, I think Floyd would win that , but the only reason it's talked about is because Floyd is so superior to everyone near his weight . To be fair it is unrealistic. Why should Floyd want it? He's 38 and he's had a gutful. People should leave him to retire in peace.
Move up- I've said many times before, GGG isn't a big MW. He would however probably still beat every SMW out there EXCEPT Ward. IMO , this fight is also unrealistic. Ward is a big SMW and if we're honest , he's moving up. The 164 catchweight is bullshit really, but I do think Ward should take that as a compliment because GGG is realistic enough to realise he can't beat Ward at 168. So take Ward out of the equation , and what is there for GGG? not a lot really. His biggest money fights are still Canelo/Cotto and Quillin/Jacobs.
So it's not easy really.

[Tam Seddon]

Think Martin Murray has given him the biggest test to date and even that really wasn't a test.

[Tam Seddon]

Cotto is on 160 already with just under a month to ive seen, Canelo was 167.8.

[Memphis]

It's just beyond ridiculous isn't it? Im assuming Canelo does know where one weight limit ends and another begins?


Im too big for 154, but Im not big enough for 160 laughable.


For the record, Ward would have been bang on for telling Golovkin to fuck off if he suggested 164.

[TitoFan]

It's just beyond ridiculous isn't it? Im assuming Canelo does know where one weight limit ends and another begins?


Im too big for 154, but Im not big enough for 160 laughable.


For the record, Ward would have been bang on for telling Golovkin to fuck off if he suggested 164.

Oh... I think we all know Canelo is big enough for 160. The post just preceding yours is a testament to that. It IS laughable. Canelo is GGG's same size right now. 155 is just a good hiding place while GGG either dies, or moves up to challenge Ward.