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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.


    Theres no point in GGG going up when he can potentially make history at 160. Would be foolish. With Canelo its a bit different because he would officially be a 160 champion and would officially be in that weight class. Ive not seen GGG fight for any version of a 168 belt yet so its different. But as I said before Canelo isn't even going to fight GGG anyway, because Cotto is going to ruin him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.


    Theres no point in GGG going up when he can potentially make history at 160. Would be foolish. With Canelo its a bit different because he would officially be a 160 champion and would officially be in that weight class. Ive not seen GGG fight for any version of a 168 belt yet so its different. But as I said before Canelo isn't even going to fight GGG anyway, because Cotto is going to ruin him.
    I think fans have got caught up in the sales pitch "history" "titles" "champion". It all matters in a look at my left hand while I lift your wallet with my right sort of way. But in true sport, true competition titles and defenses mean nothing when compared to quality of competition. One good opponent trumps 10 mediocre opponents. SRL is a legend, an all time great, he fought like 6 great fighters. Not 20. But those 6 were so damn good that he will always be known for taking on greats. Nobody cares about his 5 division titles or unifying or or or. At it's core it's about who you fight and that is all.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    If you all want to call Canelo a punk for not going up that's fine. Just be sure you judge GGG the same for his refusal to go up to fight Ward. It's exactly the same.


    Theres no point in GGG going up when he can potentially make history at 160. Would be foolish. With Canelo its a bit different because he would officially be a 160 champion and would officially be in that weight class. Ive not seen GGG fight for any version of a 168 belt yet so its different. But as I said before Canelo isn't even going to fight GGG anyway, because Cotto is going to ruin him.
    I think fans have got caught up in the sales pitch "history" "titles" "champion". It all matters in a look at my left hand while I lift your wallet with my right sort of way. But in true sport, true competition titles and defenses mean nothing when compared to quality of competition. One good opponent trumps 10 mediocre opponents. SRL is a legend, an all time great, he fought like 6 great fighters. Not 20. But those 6 were so damn good that he will always be known for taking on greats. Nobody cares about his 5 division titles or unifying or or or. At it's core it's about who you fight and that is all.
    Agreed on the root needing to be quality over quantity, who you fought and how it went that truly makes a great rather than stacking numbers and collecting trinkets. I think a great needs to still be that though when matched. But today its the new norm and at the head of what networks obsess with. A perfect case today is Broner, he now boasts as being a 4 division champ, manufactured 4 division champ, but still among De La Hoya, Jones jr, Whitaker on and on. Its comical. Even Leonard cared enough to have Lalonde..the champion..boil down below lt hvy limit and make him a two division titlist in one night. A literal buy one get one free.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    17 divisions are enough, the limits should have to be there champion and challenger alike. What happened to guys just stepping up Step up or shut up. Now its done it baby steps and Canelo is a perfect example. The same guy who had to hoodwink and change a tune up with Angulo into a special clause with 155 bs.

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