Andre ward PPV

[beenKOed]

Ward needs to forget about Floyd, Ward is not going to be the next big thing in boxing. He needs to fight anyone who will get him some attention and some money. Waiting around for the big fights to come to you is BS.
Hey, Andre, you are out from under Gossen now so make your mark. You want everyone to appreciate your greatness, well start kicking some ass. Clean out the division, move up and down (remember Dawson) to make some fights happen, and stop setting in the corner crying like a sissy because no one wants to dance with you. You pissed and moaned that Gossen was screwing you and holding you back, who are you going to blame this time?
You are not Floyd and you have not put in the time or work he did, get off your fanny and make it happen, and please stop crying about how you do not get the attention you deserve! It is sickening, Andre!

[Primo Carnera]

I hear all the "he's too boring to be PPV stuff ", but personally I don't buy it. I'm a believer in the best being PPV , maybe that's a bit naive but that's how I feel . In the UK, HE would've been PPV when he was 12!
IMO, the only thing that stops Ward being PPV is Ward. He needs to fight FFS! Trust me if he had fought 2-3 times a year since he won the super 6, he would be 35 or 36-0 , be a 2 weight World Champion and would definitely be PPV!

[TitoFan]

"Would've.... could've.... should've".

A good title for his autobiography, which by the way he could probably start now since he's not doing anything else.

[J_Undisputed]

The problem with ward is he doesnt do anything that translates to he casual fans. He didn't same like an unlikable person (till he started this "little G" taunting which sounds stupid and immature-- he couldn't come up with something better than that?). He's Obviously observant and eloquent enough to get a commentating position. but in the ring, He has no gimmick...

Is he one of the fastest?
Does he have one of the best (left hook/ straight right hand/ defense) in the business?
Is he one of the biggest bangers?
Is he taking out guys in 4 rounds or less?
Is he throwing hard punches every minute of every round start to finish?

Wards strength is in his method. He tried to be roy jones early and got dropped for it. He decided for longevity's sake, he'd change his approach. So now he nullifies his opponents with his chess game, infighting and running out the clock on most fighters. Most of the casual fans have no idea why hes winning rounds or fights. To them he probably looks like an average fighter winning fighting an average fight because they dont know infighting, ring generalship or the finer details of what hes doing. But they do know that hitting on the break and headbutts are probably sh*tty things to do and against the rules. Not to mention he limits his own exposure to oakland.

He's got 2 options:
Do what he does but do it quicker, step up with some malice, and starting wearing guys down and knocking them out early to show hes a force.

or

Proclaim himself the smartest fighter that can out think anyone in the ring and start taking on the tasks with bigger risks and bigger rewards. This ones unidirectional. Go up challenge guys the light heavies, and cruisers ... slay some giants. You cant go after smaller guys, with commentators saying the old adage that a good bigger fighter always beats a good smaller fighter, every broadcast. Its definitely a buzzkill. Only reason GGG would get away with it because they (winner of cotto/alvarez) would hold a title in his division. Ward could fight triple G, rock him to sleep and beat him decisively and Triple G would still be the bigger sell afterward, because of the way he fights. The fact that he went balls to the all on moroe and skimped on his defense to make the fight more fan friendly, already shows hes got more business sense than ward, who never strained himself to make a fight or decisively ko someone except Dawson (who people can argue was weight drained and punchy at the time)

Floyd was one of the fastest? He was a d0uche too (but so was mayorga). He had a defense that was considered the best in the game. That created mystery for people. What would happen when he fought a guy that that finally landed a punch on him? Mosely did that and floyd hung on for dear life? So what would happen when he found someone who could land more than one? or was too fast for him to block all the punches or bullied him around the ring (maidana) , there were all these what if scenarios and unanswerable questions. When it was obvious floyd was cherry picking his opponents regardless of rank, the people turned on him a little. Most of the casual fans, if they couldnt be entertained for the fight, still hung around to see if he would say pacquiaos name. After he fought him, they all said .. the mystery was gone and the questions have been answered so unless he can create another mystery, hes done... He said BERTO! and every went WTF? he's done....

[Kirkland Laing]

I think I nailed it here

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ml#post1102817

and here

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ml#post1103599


I'd say for guys like Ward and mayweather they just don't have styles that are going to make you spend PPV dollars to watch them. Floyd made himself into Money Mayweather and it worked fantastically for him, millions of people have paid PPV dollars mainly to hope he gets beat. Ward doesn't have an exciting style either but is a relatively quietly spoken nice guy.

Imagine if he'd beaten Kessler and declared himself the actual son of god in the ring afterwards and said he was unbeatable. A black man claiming that in America is going to be an instant media sensation, you've nailed two of the things that really animate Americans in race and religion. If Ward pretended he was gay and waved a gun around he'd have got all of them.

But race and religion are enough to make everybody sit up and take notice. All he'd have to do after that is troll white/religious America with a string of outrageous statements and keep winning. It wouldn't matter that he won boring fights and didn't knock anybody out, so long as he kept winning he'd have become a huge PPV attraction.

But he fucked it up by being himself. Never mind.