O'Sullivan - Eubank (WBA full title eliminator) on Joshua - Whyte undercard

[Tam Seddon]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

[Tam Seddon]

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[Primo Carnera]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

[Tam Seddon]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

From 17 stone 5 to 12 stone nearly. Im 12 stone 4 at the mo, but im not fighting till December 7th in Malta.

[ross]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

[Tam Seddon]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.

[Tam Seddon]

and boxed two lads in between that one had 100 fights and other was 12-0 and is turning pro soon.

[Kirkland Laing]

Eubank Junior is going to go on and on about Golovkin like his dad did about Roy Jones with about as much chance of him fighting Golovkin as there was of his dad fighting Jones. He's still a work in progress and there's no guarantee he'll even be able to mix it at world level yet. If he actually manages to beat two or three guys of the Lee/Quillin/Lemieux level then he's worth putting in with Golovkin. He won't do better than anybody else has though.

[ross]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.

Former pros doesnt really mean a great deal. What sort of level did they mix in? Thats the important bit. Ok the Turkish national fighter and the lad with over 300 bouts, they have experience but there are amateur lads here in Guernsey with over 60 bouts but they are still losing to lads with less than half their bouts. Some lads just love boxing but they are no better than mediocre. Mediocre doesnt mean bad or terrible! It just means they are average in the big scheme of things when you judge against someone of a top level.

Im not trying to offend you Tam but any of those lads in white collar if they were to face Eubank as shit as he is they would have their ears boxed off.

[Tam Seddon]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.

Former pros doesnt really mean a great deal. What sort of level did they mix in? Thats the important bit. Ok the Turkish national fighter and the lad with over 300 bouts, they have experience but there are amateur lads here in Guernsey with over 60 bouts but they are still losing to lads with less than half their bouts. Some lads just love boxing but they are no better than mediocre. Mediocre doesnt mean bad or terrible! It just means they are average in the big scheme of things when you judge against someone of a top level.

Im not trying to offend you Tam but any of those lads in white collar if they were to face Eubank as shit as he is they would have their ears boxed off.

Of course they would , that's why we aren't pro and never claim we ever will be or will ever get close to that level. The next guy I'm fighting in Malta is pretty good. It's not white collar it's semi pro, I get paid for this. No head guards or vests anymore. I'm pretty sure I'm doing 6x2 min rounds for this next fight too.

[Primo Carnera]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.

[ross]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.

You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.

I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.

Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?

[Primo Carnera]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.

You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.

I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.

Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?

" Definition of mediocre in English:
adjective

Of only average quality; not very good:"
A bit arrogant to start talking about Tam's opponents like that considering you don't know them and the fact that you used your analogy about them not standing a chance against Cwistopher proves my point that all you're interested in is the hype and bullshit merchants, nobody said they would stand a chance , what exactly was your point?
I'm certainly not "in awe of every boxer" , like I want to lick their ass. I just respect them for challenging themselves.
The only person in awe of , or starstruck here is you. The way you go on about your 2 favourite bum chums is embarrassing considering their lack of achievements to date.
As for the "low level fighters" you mention, you know The "minions", the "ne'er do well's"? they don't need any Awards from me because they don't do it for that, they do it for themselves.

[ross]

Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������

So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?

I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.

Can you not see my point though?

You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.

What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.

You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.

I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.

Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?

" Definition of mediocre in English:
adjective

Of only average quality; not very good:"
A bit arrogant to start talking about Tam's opponents like that considering you don't know them and the fact that you used your analogy about them not standing a chance against Cwistopher proves my point that all you're interested in is the hype and bullshit merchants, nobody said they would stand a chance , what exactly was your point?
I'm certainly not "in awe of every boxer" , like I want to lick their ass. I just respect them for challenging themselves.
The only person in awe of , or starstruck here is you. The way you go on about your 2 favourite bum chums is embarrassing considering their lack of achievements to date.
As for the "low level fighters" you mention, you know The "minions", the "ne'er do well's"? they don't need any Awards from me because they don't do it for that, they do it for themselves.

Pro low level fighters do it to earn money

If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?

Eubank is improving.