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    Default Re: O'Sullivan - Eubank (WBA full title eliminator) on Joshua - Whyte undercard

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    Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
    So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

    So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

    Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
    I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
    Can you not see my point though?

    You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

    My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
    What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

    White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
    Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

    Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.
    Former pros doesnt really mean a great deal. What sort of level did they mix in? Thats the important bit. Ok the Turkish national fighter and the lad with over 300 bouts, they have experience but there are amateur lads here in Guernsey with over 60 bouts but they are still losing to lads with less than half their bouts. Some lads just love boxing but they are no better than mediocre. Mediocre doesnt mean bad or terrible! It just means they are average in the big scheme of things when you judge against someone of a top level.

    Im not trying to offend you Tam but any of those lads in white collar if they were to face Eubank as shit as he is they would have their ears boxed off.

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    Default Re: O'Sullivan - Eubank (WBA full title eliminator) on Joshua - Whyte undercard

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    Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
    So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?

    So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.

    Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
    I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
    Can you not see my point though?

    You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.

    My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
    What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do.

    White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
    Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.

    Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.
    Former pros doesnt really mean a great deal. What sort of level did they mix in? Thats the important bit. Ok the Turkish national fighter and the lad with over 300 bouts, they have experience but there are amateur lads here in Guernsey with over 60 bouts but they are still losing to lads with less than half their bouts. Some lads just love boxing but they are no better than mediocre. Mediocre doesnt mean bad or terrible! It just means they are average in the big scheme of things when you judge against someone of a top level.

    Im not trying to offend you Tam but any of those lads in white collar if they were to face Eubank as shit as he is they would have their ears boxed off.
    Of course they would , that's why we aren't pro and never claim we ever will be or will ever get close to that level. The next guy I'm fighting in Malta is pretty good. It's not white collar it's semi pro, I get paid for this. No head guards or vests anymore. I'm pretty sure I'm doing 6x2 min rounds for this next fight too.

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