there is no end to the depravity of mankind

[IamInuit]

Look I'm just fed up with all the liberal bullshit regarding this place on the planet and I'm a liberal. This isn't about 911. That is just American-centric belief. What I'm saying is we should try doing nothing. Why are we even there for? We keep setting up these puppet dictators and hide behind this "democracy" horse shit. Clearly there are places on this planet that such a theory cannot apply or it would have evolved by now. We are quite literally dealing with elements of Islam that are mentally in the 5th century.

Get out of their territories and take all the military hardware out. If mercenaries persist on their own then so be it. This part of the world have been lost since I was born and has now turned into tribal warfare. Its simply naive after all the freakin empirical evidence to keep on with this failed experiment.
If everything we have done thus far based on military involvement has failed then the opposite must be true. Peace is simply impossible with the status quo of intervention. Its impossible.Oil is no longer a viable reason or some Russian red tide. FFS two of the suicide attackers were refugees from Syria who came over to Europe via Greece. Why does the West even need influence there? Is it Israel? Just get out and if some super Arab country comes out of it then deal with it then. All of these condolences every time this happens makes me want to hurl. Nobody deals with the cause. All of these pseudo intellectuals that pop up on broadcasts from their Ivory towers talking about the same shit as they did last time and the time before that and.....

Never seen anything so black and white remain so grey for so long. Sometimes the solution is simple. This situation reminds me of a line from The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet, "when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."


Get out or at least eliminate it as a possibility to solve the problem by doing it. If its a war on civilizations be it christian vs muslim or secular vs Islam then it wont change a thing. Either that or nuke the place and be done with it. Use the same logic as Truman did. Or lets just let them bomb us for the next hundred years and get involved in meaningless wars there until the end of time.

[greynotsoold]

Look I'm just fed up with all the liberal bullshit regarding this place on the planet and I'm a liberal. This isn't about 911. That is just American-centric belief. What I'm saying is we should try doing nothing. Why are we even there for? We keep setting up these puppet dictators and hide behind this "democracy" horse shit. Clearly there are places on this planet that such a theory cannot apply or it would have evolved by now. We are quite literally dealing with elements of Islam that are mentally in the 5th century.

Get out of their territories and take all the military hardware out. If mercenaries persist on their own then so be it. This part of the world have been lost since I was born and has now turned into tribal warfare. Its simply naive after all the freakin empirical evidence to keep on with this failed experiment.
If everything we have done thus far based on military involvement has failed then the opposite must be true. Peace is simply impossible with the status quo of intervention. Its impossible.Oil is no longer a viable reason or some Russian red tide. FFS two of the suicide attackers were refugees from Syria who came over to Europe via Greece. Why does the West even need influence there? Is it Israel? Just get out and if some super Arab country comes out of it then deal with it then. All of these condolences every time this happens makes me want to hurl. Nobody deals with the cause. All of these pseudo intellectuals that pop up on broadcasts from their Ivory towers talking about the same shit as they did last time and the time before that and.....

Never seen anything so black and white remain so grey for so long. Sometimes the solution is simple. This situation reminds me of a line from The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet, "when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."


Get out or at least eliminate it as a possibility to solve the problem by doing it. If its a war on civilizations be it christian vs muslim or secular vs Islam then it wont change a thing. Either that or nuke the place and be done with it. Use the same logic as Truman did. Or lets just let them bomb us for the next hundred years and get involved in meaningless wars there until the end of time.

Spot on. Cut them loose and let them fight. If they persist in attacks like this, kill them in huge numbers.