Cotto stripped

[Rantcatrat]

Cotto is a natural 147-pounder, slightly smallish for 154... and definitely not suited for 160.
Canelo is a natural 160-pounder, who dehydrates to make 155, but could easily fight at 168.

Cotto or Roach never said they'd never fight GGG.
Canelo and Oscar said various things:

1. Canelo would fight GGG "someday".
2. Canelo wouldn't fight GGG at 160. It would have to be at 155.
3. They would let the fight "marinate" (whatever the f*ck that means).


Yet Cotto is the one that catches hell for ducking GGG.

Sounds like sound logic to me.


I like my side of the argument.

Here's the problem with your argument, @TitoFan - Cotto fought Martinez at 159 and Geale at 157. If so, why not fight GGG at 160, or even 159, like Martinez. The only reason not to do so is to avoid him. With Canelo, as far as I'm aware, he's never fought above 155. So, he would be moving up in weight 5 pounds to face GGG. That's a better excuse than Cotto's.

[Kirkland Laing]

The WBC tried to shake him down for an extra 800k and he told them to go and fuck themselves. I think he's going to get my avatar photograph just for that.

Here's a scenario for you. Cotto and Canelo have the fight of the year. Cotto wins a controversial decision. It's nailed on for a rematch next Cinco.

You don't think the WBC will be trying to rent them a belt for the rematch? They fucking will do. Holding grudges or having principles aren't things these people do, they get in the way of making money.

[SlimTrae]

I think the wbc chose to do this. They've allowed others to keep belt under similar instances.

[TitoFan]

Cotto is a natural 147-pounder, slightly smallish for 154... and definitely not suited for 160.
Canelo is a natural 160-pounder, who dehydrates to make 155, but could easily fight at 168.

Cotto or Roach never said they'd never fight GGG.
Canelo and Oscar said various things:

1. Canelo would fight GGG "someday".
2. Canelo wouldn't fight GGG at 160. It would have to be at 155.
3. They would let the fight "marinate" (whatever the f*ck that means).


Yet Cotto is the one that catches hell for ducking GGG.

Sounds like sound logic to me.


I like my side of the argument.

Here's the problem with your argument, @TitoFan - Cotto fought Martinez at 159 and Geale at 157. If so, why not fight GGG at 160, or even 159, like Martinez. The only reason not to do so is to avoid him. With Canelo, as far as I'm aware, he's never fought above 155. So, he would be moving up in weight 5 pounds to face GGG. That's a better excuse than Cotto's.

With all due respect, @Rantcatrat ........ really?

The CW for Geale was 158. Geale came in at 157 (could've come in a pound heavier, but people like to sledgehammer Cotto about he made Geale almost kill himself dropping 3 pounds). Cotto came in at 153.6, under the JMW limit! For Martinez, the CW was 159. Cotto came in at 155. He's never weighed in at 159. Canelo, on the other hand, typically rehydrates into the middle 170's.

If anybody is suited for GGG, it's Canelo.
But we've already heard all the excuses, and the Cotto fight hasn't even happened yet.

[Master]

So Cotto did not pay, WBC stripped him but as Canelo did pay and if he wins he gets the title. Scum bags and corrupt.

[Violent Demise]

Cotto is a natural 147-pounder, slightly smallish for 154... and definitely not suited for 160.
Canelo is a natural 160-pounder, who dehydrates to make 155, but could easily fight at 168.

Cotto or Roach never said they'd never fight GGG.
Canelo and Oscar said various things:

1. Canelo would fight GGG "someday".
2. Canelo wouldn't fight GGG at 160. It would have to be at 155.
3. They would let the fight "marinate" (whatever the f*ck that means).


Yet Cotto is the one that catches hell for ducking GGG.

Sounds like sound logic to me.


I like my side of the argument.

They just paid step-aside money not to fight him.

[Andre]

So Cotto did not pay, WBC stripped him but as Canelo did pay and if he wins he gets the title. Scum bags and corrupt.

I think Canelo will make Cotto quit before 9 rounds anyway.

[TitoFan]

Cotto is a natural 147-pounder, slightly smallish for 154... and definitely not suited for 160.
Canelo is a natural 160-pounder, who dehydrates to make 155, but could easily fight at 168.

Cotto or Roach never said they'd never fight GGG.
Canelo and Oscar said various things:

1. Canelo would fight GGG "someday".
2. Canelo wouldn't fight GGG at 160. It would have to be at 155.
3. They would let the fight "marinate" (whatever the f*ck that means).


Yet Cotto is the one that catches hell for ducking GGG.

Sounds like sound logic to me.


I like my side of the argument.

They just paid step-aside money not to fight him.

Cotto-Canelo had to happen, did it not?
Had Cotto had to fight GGG first, he surely would've lost.... and no Cotto-Canelo.

You should be happy, instead of complaining.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Miguel Cotto: Ask Oscar De La Hoya to give $1.1 million to the WBC and wait

He paid $800000 not to fight Gennady but he wont pay $300000 to be a champion.

The fuck is he then?

[No Contest]

Smart buisness man. Everyone knows these belts are just bargaining chips. Fans know who the best fighters are we don't need a fucking belt to prove it. This shit is just straight up extortion.

[Beanz]

Smart buisness man. Everyone knows these belts are just bargaining chips. Fans know who the best fighters are we don't need a fucking belt to prove it. This shit is just straight up extortion.

You are right you don't need a belt to prove it but you need to fight. Neither of them are willing to fight a middleweight at middleweight, and yes holding a belt and and the lineal title hostage by outright refusing to fight for it is extortion. It's using it to gain leverage and authenticity and to maximise the amount of people willing to pay for the fight. Why wait till just two days before the fight to decide you are going suddenly to become Mr honourable if it is anything else?

Cotto is no better than the WBC. He is embarrassing himself.

[No Contest]

Smart buisness man. Everyone knows these belts are just bargaining chips. Fans know who the best fighters are we don't need a fucking belt to prove it. This shit is just straight up extortion.

You are right you don't need a belt to prove it but you need to fight. Neither of them are willing to fight a middleweight at middleweight, and yes holding a belt and and the lineal title hostage by outright refusing to fight for it is extortion. It's using it to gain leverage and authenticity and to maximise the amount of people willing to pay for the fight. Why wait till just two days before the fight to decide you are going suddenly to become Mr honourable if it is anything else?

Cotto is no better than the WBC. He is embarrassing himself.

I see what you did there. The whole pay your way to higher ranking thing is laughable. I need to know what the purse is for both guys and what percentage they are trying to pinch. They could just create a new belt, say perhaps the bronze WBC champ for those on a limited budget.