Dissecting Ali hate

[Dark Lord Al]

So this is what we have so far:

@brocktonblockbust doesn't like Ali because he's a lifelong, hardcore Marciano fan. Hardcore Marciano fans typically don't like Ali because of the inevitable comparisons. Brock struggles between hating Ali and saying nice things about him, but it pains him to do so (say nice things about him). Hence, the inconsistency.

@beenKOed doesn't like Ali for reasons I can't understand (JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!). Actually, he's made his reasons very clear. So clear that I feel compelled to mention him as

@idontlikealibecausehesadisrespectfulprick





@Bill Paxtom is still a mystery, however. He's never quite let on (in a serious manner and without the accompanying pictures) why he hates Ali. But he's consistent in his hate, and likes to make stuff up.


You guys are all cool, though.
Cheers.




(I know I left out some guys, like Dark Lord Al........ cheers, Al! But these are the more active haters on the board, so I started with them).

I dislike clay not a name he made up through his ignorance.

[Master]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

[Dark Lord Al]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

Jack Johnson was born and lived as Jack Johnson right or wrong , clay was a gullible fool.

[Master]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

Jack Johnson was born and lived as Jack Johnson right or wrong , clay was a gullible fool.

So Ali changed his name from a slave name. Nothing wrong with that.

Ali was gullible following the nation of islam and the corruption and ideology that was in it. Their highlighting of inequality and racism was true.

[Bill Paxtom]

Cassius Clay

Was a Phony of the Highest Order.

Oh, he was a talented boxer and a great showman.

But, he was a complete fraud character wise.

[Dark Lord Al]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

Jack Johnson was born and lived as Jack Johnson right or wrong , clay was a gullible fool.

So Ali changed his name from a slave name. Nothing wrong with that.

Ali was gullible following the nation of islam and the corruption and ideology that was in it. Their highlighting of inequality and racism was true.

Didn't his parents name him Cassius ?
Was he ever a slave ?
He was a fucking idiot.

[brocktonblockbust]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

Jack Johnson was born and lived as Jack Johnson right or wrong , clay was a gullible fool.

So Ali changed his name from a slave name. Nothing wrong with that.

Ali was gullible following the nation of islam and the corruption and ideology that was in it. Their highlighting of inequality and racism was true.

Didn't his parents name him Cassius ?
Was he ever a slave ?
He was a fucking idiot.

He DID act like a fucking idiot at times. Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis NOW THEY WERE GENTLEMEN!

[El Kabong]

The Nation of Islam is nothing but a group of segregationists hiding behind a veil of "religion"....Malcolm X started to stray from the flock when he actually WENT to Mecca and saw Muslims of all colors and then he understood Elijah Muhammad was a bullshit artist who was scamming money off of loads of people to take care of his many many many children. And Malcolm X was a bum too. In boxing The NOI were no better than the Mafia, they fixed fights and bullied opponents quite a bit. All the better to line their pockets.


I don't care about a boxers politics, it shouldn't be an issue, it's a person who gets paid to punch people in the head....you want to put your faith in a brain that's taken shots from Joe Frazier and George Foreman and Earnie Shavers? Be my guest.

[Master]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

Jack Johnson was born and lived as Jack Johnson right or wrong , clay was a gullible fool.

So Ali changed his name from a slave name. Nothing wrong with that.

Ali was gullible following the nation of islam and the corruption and ideology that was in it. Their highlighting of inequality and racism was true.

Didn't his parents name him Cassius ?
Was he ever a slave ?
He was a fucking idiot.

Ali was considering changing his name to cassius X but did not, even he did call himself that I still think you would consider him an idiot.

[brocktonblockbust]

Al if you dislike Ali then god knows what you make of Jack Johnson. Ali was a choirboy in comparison.

Jack Johnson was born and lived as Jack Johnson right or wrong , clay was a gullible fool.

So Ali changed his name from a slave name. Nothing wrong with that.

Ali was gullible following the nation of islam and the corruption and ideology that was in it. Their highlighting of inequality and racism was true.

Didn't his parents name him Cassius ?
Was he ever a slave ?
He was a fucking idiot.

Ali was considering changing his name to cassius X but did not, even he did call himself that I still think you would consider him an idiot.

Al's point is that Cassius Clay's mother and father gave him the name Cassius so therefore he was not a slave name it was a name from his mother and father so you cannot blame the white man for his first name. Perhaps for his last name of course but not for his first name

[TitoFan]

So this is what we have so far:

@brocktonblockbust doesn't like Ali because he's a lifelong, hardcore Marciano fan. Hardcore Marciano fans typically don't like Ali because of the inevitable comparisons. Brock struggles between hating Ali and saying nice things about him, but it pains him to do so (say nice things about him). Hence, the inconsistency.

@beenKOed doesn't like Ali for reasons I can't understand (JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!). Actually, he's made his reasons very clear. So clear that I feel compelled to mention him as

@idontlikealibecausehesadisrespectfulprick





@Bill Paxtom is still a mystery, however. He's never quite let on (in a serious manner and without the accompanying pictures) why he hates Ali. But he's consistent in his hate, and likes to make stuff up.


You guys are all cool, though.
Cheers.




(I know I left out some guys, like Dark Lord Al........ cheers, Al! But these are the more active haters on the board, so I started with them).

I dislike clay not a name he made up through his ignorance.

I'm gonna defend Ali on this one.
You're not American, so you probably don't know the names I'm going to mention right now.

Chad Johnson
Ron Artest

Chad was a wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals. He was a flashy, obnoxious MF, who wore the number 85 on his jersey. Being the character that he is, he decided he liked the way his name sounded in Spanish (ocho cinco). So guess what....... he LEGALLY changed his name. His jersey had to be changed to read OchoCinco, and that's his real name now. Now THAT'S ignorance.

Ron was an NBA basketball player, who was always getting thrown out of ballgames 'cause he loved to fight and was kind of a bully on the court. A real badass. He was suspended for a bunch of games for going into the stands in what turned out to be a near riot during a basketball game and punching out some fans. Well..... the guy for some f*cking reason decides to change his name to Metta World Peace. I'm not making this up. That's the guy's legal name now.

Now THOSE are ignorant people changing their names.

Now let me mention another name you might not be familiar with...... Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Saw an HBO special on his the other day. Born by the name of Lew Alcindor, he played basketball for the Los Angeles Lakers and had a storied career. He's an older man now, but very serious, very well-spoken. He changed his name due to religious beliefs. Just like Ali.

My point is there's a difference there.
Why begrudge a man's beliefs and decisions to change his name accordingly?

[beenKOed]

So this is what we have so far:

@brocktonblockbust doesn't like Ali because he's a lifelong, hardcore Marciano fan. Hardcore Marciano fans typically don't like Ali because of the inevitable comparisons. Brock struggles between hating Ali and saying nice things about him, but it pains him to do so (say nice things about him). Hence, the inconsistency.

@beenKOed doesn't like Ali for reasons I can't understand (JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!). Actually, he's made his reasons very clear. So clear that I feel compelled to mention him as

@idontlikealibecausehesadisrespectfulprick





@Bill Paxtom is still a mystery, however. He's never quite let on (in a serious manner and without the accompanying pictures) why he hates Ali. But he's consistent in his hate, and likes to make stuff up.


You guys are all cool, though.
Cheers.




(I know I left out some guys, like Dark Lord Al........ cheers, Al! But these are the more active haters on the board, so I started with them).

I dislike clay not a name he made up through his ignorance.

I'm gonna defend Ali on this one.
You're not American, so you probably don't know the names I'm going to mention right now.

Chad Johnson
Ron Artest

Chad was a wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals. He was a flashy, obnoxious MF, who wore the number 85 on his jersey. Being the character that he is, he decided he liked the way his name sounded in Spanish (ocho cinco). So guess what....... he LEGALLY changed his name. His jersey had to be changed to read OchoCinco, and that's his real name now. Now THAT'S ignorance.

Ron was an NBA basketball player, who was always getting thrown out of ballgames 'cause he loved to fight and was kind of a bully on the court. A real badass. He was suspended for a bunch of games for going into the stands in what turned out to be a near riot during a basketball game and punching out some fans. Well..... the guy for some f*cking reason decides to change his name to Metta World Peace. I'm not making this up. That's the guy's legal name now.

Now THOSE are ignorant people changing their names.

Now let me mention another name you might not be familiar with...... Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Saw an HBO special on his the other day. Born by the name of Lew Alcindor, he played basketball for the Los Angeles Lakers and had a storied career. He's an older man now, but very serious, very well-spoken. He changed his name due to religious beliefs. Just like Ali.

My point is there's a difference there.
Why begrudge a man's beliefs and decisions to change his name accordingly?

Never really understood why Ali decided to changed his name but that was between him, his parents, and his God as far as I was concerned. Besides he was the same prick as before so it made no difference one way or the other.

[Bill Paxtom]

I Don't Hate Cassius Clay

I just bring up both 'factual' and 'concise' statements that the Young Man said.

He's not a favorite of mine, but I don't hate him.

I think he deserves everything he gets.

Good, Bad or Indifferent.

Happy Thanksgiving To All.

[nuggetdotcom]

I Don't Hate Cassius Clay

I just bring up both 'factual' and 'concise' statements that the Young Man said.

He's not a favorite of mine, but I don't hate him.

I think he deserves everything he gets.

Good, Bad or Indifferent.

Happy Thanksgiving To All.

He was a fascinating talent, a joy to watch for years, he shattered many illusions amongst the heavyweight contenders. He had a competitive career enjoyed by all true boxing fans. He egged up his publicity with ridiculous muslim and anti war sentiments to get the younger generation, and more importantly the democrats, behind him. No bloody interest to me whatsoever in terms of politics, but I still had a few journeys to Hammersmith Odeon at midnight to watch the closed circuit TV! Boxing wise a once in a lifetime.

[Bill Paxtom]

I Don't Hate Cassius Clay

I just bring up both 'factual' and 'concise' statements that the Young Man said.

He's not a favorite of mine, but I don't hate him.

I think he deserves everything he gets.

Good, Bad or Indifferent.

Happy Thanksgiving To All.

He was a fascinating talent, a joy to watch for years, he shattered many illusions amongst the heavyweight contenders. He had a competitive career enjoyed by all true boxing fans. He egged up his publicity with ridiculous muslim and anti war sentiments to get the younger generation, and more importantly the democrats, behind him. No bloody interest to me whatsoever in terms of politics, but I still had a few journeys to Hammersmith Odeon at midnight to watch the closed circuit TV! Boxing wise a once in a lifetime.

Very Well Said