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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.

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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    People are talking about it because the idea of the fight takes hold in the mind pretty easily.

    Will never happen though.
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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    I hope Fury sticks to his word, relinquish the belt if Gaye Hayes gets ranked.
    That is the one time I'd applaud a Fighter for refusing to fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
    Wake up!

    The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
    .......which again, is what your father should have done

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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
    Wake up!

    The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
    .......which again, is what your father should have done
    Maybe Wlad should have taken a leaf out of Hayes book and also pulled out a second time and you wouldnt be sulking on here with no new material and everyone laughing at you now

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
    Wake up!

    The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
    .......which again, is what your father should have done
    Maybe Wlad should have taken a leaf out of Hayes book and also pulled out a second time and you wouldnt be sulking on here with no new material and everyone laughing at you now

    Pulling the other calf would've been a little suspicious.

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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    Fury should fight Haye on channel 5 and hand him a beating in front of 20 million viewers as a thank you to all his fans and enemies of Haye.
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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer in this thread......

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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    Haye is much more popular than Fury in the UK. Fury would have the villain role in that fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.

    Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know this place would be buzzing. However, I have a problem with any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot. It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.

    Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know this place would be buzzing. However, I have a problem with any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot. It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
    Haye is an ex world champion. If he looks good in his comeback fight then he's marketable. I'm not sure you can name anybody who has held the heavyweight title for any length of time who hasn't fought an ex champ who is on the fringes of the heavyweight scene, especially when it's a money fight. Haye is a credible and extremely lucrative dance partner for Fury.

    I'm not sure the fight happens though because Fury's people are acting like a bunch of little girls about it -- we're not even going to talk to him, not going to mention his name and so on. I think they know that if they do make the fight Haye knocks him out easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.

    Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know this place would be buzzing. However, I have a problem with any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot. It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
    Haye is an ex world champion. If he looks good in his comeback fight then he's marketable. I'm not sure you can name anybody who has held the heavyweight title for any length of time who hasn't fought an ex champ who is on the fringes of the heavyweight scene, especially when it's a money fight. Haye is a credible and extremely lucrative dance partner for Fury.

    I'm not sure the fight happens though because Fury's people are acting like a bunch of little girls about it -- we're not even going to talk to him, not going to mention his name and so on. I think they know that if they do make the fight Haye knocks him out easily.

    As talented as Haye might be, it's his attitude toward boxing I can't stand. If he played Monopoly, he'd want to hoard a bunch of Get Out of Jail Free cards and go directly to GO to collect his $200. Just because he's David Haye. I say f*ck'im, no matter how a fight between and Fury would actually pan out. For the record, I have no problem imagining how Fury could actually lose to Haye, maybe even by knockout. All the more reason I don't want the fight. Let Haye earn his way back, first. In fact, should Wlad lose his rematch against Fury, I'd say have Wlad and Haye meet in a "loser retire" kind of fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.

    Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know this place would be buzzing. However, I have a problem with any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot. It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
    Haye is an ex world champion. If he looks good in his comeback fight then he's marketable. I'm not sure you can name anybody who has held the heavyweight title for any length of time who hasn't fought an ex champ who is on the fringes of the heavyweight scene, especially when it's a money fight. Haye is a credible and extremely lucrative dance partner for Fury.

    I'm not sure the fight happens though because Fury's people are acting like a bunch of little girls about it -- we're not even going to talk to him, not going to mention his name and so on. I think they know that if they do make the fight Haye knocks him out easily.

    As talented as Haye might be, it's his attitude toward boxing I can't stand. If he played Monopoly, he'd want to hoard a bunch of Get Out of Jail Free cards and go directly to GO to collect his $200. Just because he's David Haye. I say f*ck'im, no matter how a fight between and Fury would actually pan out. For the record, I have no problem imagining how Fury could actually lose to Haye, maybe even by knockout. All the more reason I don't want the fight. Let Haye earn his way back, first. In fact, should Wlad lose his rematch against Fury, I'd say have Wlad and Haye meet in a "loser retire" kind of fight.
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    Default Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Why do people assume David Haye deserves title shots simply by being David Haye? The guy goes AWOL for a few years..... pissed away the one shot he begged so mightily for..... and is nothing but an obnoxious mouth, making Amir Khan look like a choirboy in comparison.

    Shouldn't Haye have to earn his way to a title shot for once? Have him fight Wlad again, now that Wlad isn't the champ anymore. That would be one of the few instances I would be rooting for Wlad. (Hmm... come to think of it, the other time was when he fought Haye the first time).

    I got my first wish with Wlad being removed from the HW throne and now maybe having an exciting division for the first time in more than a decade. My second wish would be to watch someone dump Haye on his ass, so he could retire and go make movies or something.
    Agree 100% with @TitoFan on this one. Haye hasn't done jack. Let's see him fight Wilder first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.

    I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
    When Fury faced Wlad, Wlad was the definitive champion of the division with a 90% KO rate. Wlad was the riskiest fight out there for Fury.

    He also previously signed up to fight Haye twice and Haye pulled out both times. If anything, Haye ran from Fury. I can completely understand how Fury would be opposed to facing Haye now.

    Speaking of Wilder and Povetkin, how high are the chances that Wilder vacates his belt to avoid facing Povetkin? How many non-title defenses against no-hopers will he take before he faces Povetkin? Wilder didn't even think he was ready to face Wlad when Fury faced the ex-champ.

    Make sure to keep it all in correct perspective: Fury has proved he was willing to face Haye in the past - Haye pulled out. Haye got blanked by Wlad; Fury beat Wlad. Wilder wouldn't wasn't ready to face Wlad and Fury fought and beat Wlad. Povetkin lost to Wlad.

    How about we give Fury a nice round of applause? And hold off on critiquing him until he actually avoids a fight because so far he hasn't avoided anyone and went after the toughest fight in the division.
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