Rematches don't bode well for ex-Champs

[El Kabong]

Besides Ali miraculously winning the title back from Joe Frazier and Lennox Lewis winning the title back from McCall and Hasim name any other time that a fighter really won it back
okay we have Floyd Patterson against Ingomar Johansson there's one hahaha it doesn't happen that often contrary to what most people think

I swear to fuck that post had BETTER have ended with you throwing yourself in front of a speeding tractor trailer

What happened was the speeding truck bounced off of my Armenian nose and had a fender bender.

Plus the oh I don't know 12 or 13 examples I just gave off the top of my head to start this thread are more than enough proof that it will usually not work out for the X champ

Well my problem isn't the argument it's that you've made the decision to start an entirely new thread about the EXACT same shit you have in the other thread! Have you not fucking noticed that YET?!?!?!

[brocktonblockbust]

Besides Ali miraculously winning the title back from Joe Frazier and Lennox Lewis winning the title back from McCall and Hasim name any other time that a fighter really won it back
okay we have Floyd Patterson against Ingomar Johansson there's one hahaha it doesn't happen that often contrary to what most people think

I swear to fuck that post had BETTER have ended with you throwing yourself in front of a speeding tractor trailer

What happened was the speeding truck bounced off of my Armenian nose and had a fender bender.

Plus the oh I don't know 12 or 13 examples I just gave off the top of my head to start this thread are more than enough proof that it will usually not work out for the X champ

Well my problem isn't the argument it's that you've made the decision to start an entirely new thread about the EXACT same shit you have in the other thread! Have you not fucking noticed that YET?!?!?!

When a stellar post in an obscure thread is down on the third page and starting to go down the tubes and that idea is so revolutionary that it deserves a brand new thread title then yes Lyle I will create a new thread about that. Just like I created a new thread about Vladimir arrogant sneer at the post fight press conference because that topic has nothing to do with the boxing match he just had or what the skill levels of the two fighters and everything to do with attitudes and personalities. How could that be combined into a thread which was just about the boxing match itself. ??
That was a rhetorical question Lyle it means you don't have to answer it. The answer is it could not be combined we are talking about personalities now and attitudes at the post fight conference. Sometimes new threads need to be started because the topic is completely different then anything that was previously posted

[Master]

History is history and Wlad needs to fight more aggressively and at a higher tempo to beat Fury. Wlad can do it but it is against his nature to fight like that. I believe Wlad believes he can perform better, maybe he thinks his calf injury was a factor. Wlad can do it.

[El Kabong]

History is history and Wlad needs to fight more aggressively and at a higher tempo to beat Fury. Wlad can do it but it is against his nature to fight like that. I believe Wlad believes he can perform better, maybe he thinks his calf injury was a factor. Wlad can do it.

Maybe he just had an off night.....it happens.

[brocktonblockbust]

History is history and Wlad needs to fight more aggressively and at a higher tempo to beat Fury. Wlad can do it but it is against his nature to fight like that. I believe Wlad believes he can perform better, maybe he thinks his calf injury was a factor. Wlad can do it.

It's like saying that Joe Frazier can beat George Foreman in the rematch. Everybody knew he could not do it. He tried to change his style he tried to fight a little bit differently he tried to move laterally and back up a bit and he merely survive until the 5th round he got an extra three rounds out of it before foreman clubbed him down in the exact same way he did in the first fight. Klisco can try to come forward more ..try to be more aggressive ...try to get off first... try to throw/attack fury as he switches from Southoaw etcetera etcetera Wlatamir is a very skillful athlete and an intelligent person and I am sure he will do everything he can to try to figure out Tyson Fury but the thing is that Tyson Fury will also have another game plan because he will be expecting Vladimir to do this very thing.

Therefore I do not see any way that WlatAmir can beat Tyson Fury ....the size difference ....the reach.... fury's excellent feinting excellent FEINTs the same thing was really working well for him and once he gets that jab pumping and then he gets ready for Wlads right hand and steps off his back foot to fire a counter uppercut for every time Klirisco tries that right. And fury keeps his right hand very high to block the hook that lead off hook that Klitschko tries to throw sometimes... he only managed to get one or two in there for the entire fight. I just don't see Kliisko being able to do anything about this
this is a perfect example of good big man beats good smaller man as well as Youth over age as well as crazy spontaneous fighter beats cold calculating rigid fighter every time. I do not think that it can overcome the old adage which applies so well to this matchup that is that Styles make fights and tyson fury has the style to frustrate Klitschko 9 out of 10 fights

[Master]

You could be right but Wlad can adapt and he could be more aggressive as he was in the latter half of the fight an win.