Anthony Joshuas weight increase

[AdamGB]

20lb of pure muscle is a huge gain in two years for a heavyweight boxer.

Its not like he was a lighter weight fighter boiling down in weight who could easily move up.

Fury goes up and down with fat and fluid. Joshua has clearly gone up with muscle. I cant believe you even used Fury as an example

Tyson and all the Furys get random tested regularly as Peter Fury points out on hos twitter. He laughs about it because people look at their success and cant believe its just natural hard work. There is a lot of bitterness and jealousy about the furys success but thats neither here nor there.

Anyone whos tried building miscle purposefully will tell you that a lean 20lb gain in two years is huge, even if you are 6,6". Its massive for anyone, let alone someone doing it "naturally" legally.

Like I said, Joshua has said himself he used to be big on weightlifting before the boxing so its not like he just started and unlocked some growth potential out of nowhere. For someone who regularly lifts weights up to the age of 24 to suddenly gain 20lb in 2 years is suspicious!

Im hoping someone who knows a bit about weightlifting/bodybuilding chips in here.

@AdamGB would be useful about now, shame he doesn't post that often.

The bit in bold. I agree in part, but only in part. For Joe Bloggs popping down the gym at the weekend, occasionally after work, mostly looking at tarts in yoga pants yeah they'd struggle to pack on 20lbs of lean muscle I'm sure.

But for a full time athlete with the best of everything who is also clearly very gifted genetically, is it really that ridiculous a gain?

Ross why don't you think his physique and weight gain has got more exposure?

I still read the boards occasionally but had a very busy jan-july and I've not really gotten back into posting since, dropped back and having to sift through the usual passive aggressive dribble, obsessive Ali threads and whimsical spam put me off...

That's another story though.

Coincidentally, since July, I've gained 5-6kg. Not really sure you guys want pics, but my body fat % is about the same and my focus was more on gaining strength and power whilst maintaining my conditioning, not gainig mass.

Through work I obviously have access to the gym more than most and more knowledge/experience.

I don't have the genetics, nutritionists or coaching that Joshua has though, nor as much time to train.

If a 6 foot 6 pro athlete packing 20lb on in his early 20s is crazy, a 6 foot bloke gaining over 10lb in under 6 months at 29 must be fantasy?

[ross]

20lb of pure muscle is a huge gain in two years for a heavyweight boxer.

Its not like he was a lighter weight fighter boiling down in weight who could easily move up.

Fury goes up and down with fat and fluid. Joshua has clearly gone up with muscle. I cant believe you even used Fury as an example

Tyson and all the Furys get random tested regularly as Peter Fury points out on hos twitter. He laughs about it because people look at their success and cant believe its just natural hard work. There is a lot of bitterness and jealousy about the furys success but thats neither here nor there.

Anyone whos tried building miscle purposefully will tell you that a lean 20lb gain in two years is huge, even if you are 6,6". Its massive for anyone, let alone someone doing it "naturally" legally.

Like I said, Joshua has said himself he used to be big on weightlifting before the boxing so its not like he just started and unlocked some growth potential out of nowhere. For someone who regularly lifts weights up to the age of 24 to suddenly gain 20lb in 2 years is suspicious!

Im hoping someone who knows a bit about weightlifting/bodybuilding chips in here.

@AdamGB would be useful about now, shame he doesn't post that often.

The bit in bold. I agree in part, but only in part. For Joe Bloggs popping down the gym at the weekend, occasionally after work, mostly looking at tarts in yoga pants yeah they'd struggle to pack on 20lbs of lean muscle I'm sure.

But for a full time athlete with the best of everything who is also clearly very gifted genetically, is it really that ridiculous a gain?

Ross why don't you think his physique and weight gain has got more exposure?

I still read the boards occasionally but had a very busy jan-july and I've not really gotten back into posting since, dropped back and having to sift through the usual passive aggressive dribble, obsessive Ali threads and whimsical spam put me off...

That's another story though.

Coincidentally, since July, I've gained 5-6kg. Not really sure you guys want pics, but my body fat % is about the same and my focus was more on gaining strength and power whilst maintaining my conditioning, not gainig mass.

Through work I obviously have access to the gym more than most and more knowledge/experience.

I don't have the genetics, nutritionists or coaching that Joshua has though, nor as much time to train.

If a 6 foot 6 pro athlete packing 20lb on in his early 20s is crazy, a 6 foot bloke gaining over 10lb in under 6 months at 29 must be fantasy?

Yeah id like to see proof

Body fat about the same eh? Give or take 10%

[AdamGB]

Nowt to prove

The practicality of sending piss and hair samples, before and after shots and a caliper test of my bodyfat verified by an impartial person probably isn't worth it either

The fact is that it takes balanced, simple but smart training/nutrition, a lot of hard graft and above all consistency and time.

The average bloke doesn't have a lot of those qualities (relative to a professional athlete) or luxuries so you can't really use joe public as a reference point when talking about an elite athlete.

Doesn't mean that Joshua is clean, but gaining 20lbs on a massive frame in two years isn't a smoking gun for me, there are plenty of tells to look for, this isn't one of them.

Usually 24 you're only just hitting your physical peak.

[ross]

Nowt to prove

The practicality of sending piss and hair samples, before and after shots and a caliper test of my bodyfat verified by an impartial person probably isn't worth it either

The fact is that it takes balanced, simple but smart training/nutrition, a lot of hard graft and above all consistency and time.

The average bloke doesn't have a lot of those qualities (relative to a professional athlete) or luxuries so you can't really use joe public as a reference point when talking about an elite athlete.

Doesn't mean that Joshua is clean, but gaining 20lbs on a massive frame in two years isn't a smoking gun for me, there are plenty of tells to look for, this isn't one of them.

Usually 24 you're only just hitting your physical peak.

Ill take your word for your muscle increase and fat percentage staying ambiguously "about" the same

BUT!!

The whole reason I started bringing this up is we arent talking a 100 meter sprinter, we are talking someone whos supposedly an endurance athlete. Someone who has to be able to fight for 12 x 3 minute rounds. It just doesnt make sense to me and clearly alot of other people who know a bit about boxing who are bringing it up now on other sites and interviews. You see what a fighter has first before you pack more weight on them. Make sure they are fine over the distance as they are. Doesnt make any sense to me. Maybe if hed lost and it was a strength issue but he was heavily muscled already, he wasnt a stick insect.

Maybe there is another issue in the background like the ability to take punishment that histeam are concerned about. There are rumours of him being knocked out in sparring by Price. He gpt a good going over by Wlad in sparring by all accounts. Been stopped a few times in the ams. Dropped by Whyte. There is a big question mark as there was with Price.

Coincidentally Johnny Nelson has just done an i terview where he says that Chisora gave Whyte a going over in sparring and Olubamiwo reckons he dropped Whyte with a body shot.

And predictably for some ill mention Fury. Apparently hes never been dropped in sparring and hes sparred some huge punchers. Its a funny old game!

[AdamGB]

If you want to split hairs, I'm floating about 10 - 12 % same as I was when I was 5kg lighter.

To call boxing an endurance sport is erroneous, a endurance events are characterised by being consistent and low in their intensity and long duration, predominantly aerobic. Boxing, especially as you move up the weights is extremely anaerobic in nature.

Partly depending on style, you're not a marathon runner, you're a sprinter who needs to be able to sprint repeatedly and then make up the oxygen debt inbetween rounds.

I'd suggest researching sarcoplasmic hypertrophy versus myofibular hypertrophy to better understand why gaining 'muscle' can hurt some fighters, but not others.

Boxing has a way to go in terms of strength and conditioning, guys like Bruno trained more like bodybuilders, hence the phobia the sport still has.

Whether Joshua has put on 20lb usefully or not remains to be seen, but the fact remains 20lb on him is not suspicious alone.

[ross]

If you want to split hairs, I'm floating about 10 - 12 % same as I was when I was 5kg lighter.

To call boxing an endurance sport is erroneous, a endurance events are characterised by being consistent and low in their intensity and long duration, predominantly aerobic. Boxing, especially as you move up the weights is extremely anaerobic in nature.

Partly depending on style, you're not a marathon runner, you're a sprinter who needs to be able to sprint repeatedly and then make up the oxygen debt inbetween rounds.

I'd suggest researching sarcoplasmic hypertrophy versus myofibular hypertrophy to better understand why gaining 'muscle' can hurt some fighters, but not others.

Boxing has a way to go in terms of strength and conditioning, guys like Bruno trained more like bodybuilders, hence the phobia the sport still has.

Whether Joshua has put on 20lb usefully or not remains to be seen, but the fact remains 20lb on him is not suspicious alone.

We will all just have to take your word for it

[Dark Lord Al]

If only whyte had Ross to give him advice, poor him

[Primo Carnera]

If you want to split hairs, I'm floating about 10 - 12 % same as I was when I was 5kg lighter.

To call boxing an endurance sport is erroneous, a endurance events are characterised by being consistent and low in their intensity and long duration, predominantly aerobic. Boxing, especially as you move up the weights is extremely anaerobic in nature.

Partly depending on style, you're not a marathon runner, you're a sprinter who needs to be able to sprint repeatedly and then make up the oxygen debt inbetween rounds.

I'd suggest researching sarcoplasmic hypertrophy versus myofibular hypertrophy to better understand why gaining 'muscle' can hurt some fighters, but not others.

Boxing has a way to go in terms of strength and conditioning, guys like Bruno trained more like bodybuilders, hence the phobia the sport still has.

Whether Joshua has put on 20lb usefully or not remains to be seen, but the fact remains 20lb on him is not suspicious alone.

We will all just have to take your word for it

Still finding that Humble Pie hard to swallow Ross?

[AdamGB]

If you want to split hairs, I'm floating about 10 - 12 % same as I was when I was 5kg lighter.

To call boxing an endurance sport is erroneous, a endurance events are characterised by being consistent and low in their intensity and long duration, predominantly aerobic. Boxing, especially as you move up the weights is extremely anaerobic in nature.

Partly depending on style, you're not a marathon runner, you're a sprinter who needs to be able to sprint repeatedly and then make up the oxygen debt inbetween rounds.

I'd suggest researching sarcoplasmic hypertrophy versus myofibular hypertrophy to better understand why gaining 'muscle' can hurt some fighters, but not others.

Boxing has a way to go in terms of strength and conditioning, guys like Bruno trained more like bodybuilders, hence the phobia the sport still has.

Whether Joshua has put on 20lb usefully or not remains to be seen, but the fact remains 20lb on him is not suspicious alone.

We will all just have to take your word for it

You don't have to take my word for it. It's not like I'm talking from years of personal, vocational and academic experience Ross

Anyways, it's been fun guys I'll check back in a few months and see how much the inmates run the asylum