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    Default Re: If a fighter throws a punch and breaks his own arm, what is the ruling?

    I seriously wish I could get the blurry footage up but I remember the sick scene of a young Gabe Ruelas having his arm wrenched and snapped by Jeff Franklin resulting in a 'tko'. Ruelas was in full control and absolutely battered Franklin in the 6th. Gabe had a way of following through with long punches, his right was like a tumbling brick here. He dropped him hard and Franklin gets up howling and points at the camera with a bloody face. Franklin gets hurt again badly right before the bell and stumbles down. In the next round the beating continues then somewhere along the way Gabe's right arm suddenly goes lame, he literally is dragging it and cannot raise hand above beltline. Joe Goosen between rounds goes ballistic...he says glue it to your head and go all left jabs and hooks. Goosen had a way of raging. Says he'll kick Gabes ass if he lowers it and gets into argument with doctor trying to examine the arm. He sends Gabe out with a "motherfucker" and tells doctor to back off as they stood there bickering. Franklin comes out and pours it on and starts to maul inside early 7th then lays inside as the arm might as well have been useless driftwood. He locks Gabe's right arm and turns into it like seeing a knee bend in backwards! A bad as you will see. Ruelas sagging, turns his back in excruciating pain looking at the arm like it was a separated limb. It was an interesting and sudden shift in a fight, the arm wrench was never even mentioned in a bad way and Jim Lampley basically says "he's a gonna do what he has to do to secure a win".

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    Default Re: If a fighter throws a punch and breaks his own arm, what is the ruling?

    If you break your own arm, it's your fault and it results in a ko. If your opponent throws, grabs, or does something illegally to cause you to break your arm, depending on what happens, it may result in a DQ win or a No-Contest at best.

    See Tyson/Norris for a no-contest that ended up with Norris turning his knee and was unable to continue and See Hopkins/Dawson for another- Hopkins fell/thrown on his shoulder and unable to continue. The fights were ruled no-contests.
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    Default Re: If a fighter throws a punch and breaks his own arm, what is the ruling?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    If you break your own arm, it's your fault and it results in a ko. If your opponent throws, grabs, or does something illegally to cause you to break your arm, depending on what happens, it may result in a DQ win or a No-Contest at best.

    See Tyson/Norris for a no-contest that ended up with Norris turning his knee and was unable to continue and See Hopkins/Dawson for another- Hopkins fell/thrown on his shoulder and unable to continue. The fights were ruled no-contests.
    The crazy thing is the exact same thing happened to Norris earlier in career and was ruled a tko and wasn't result of a punch like Tyson. I don't think there is a definitive rule and seems very much random. I mean the record book says Pat Lawlor knocked out Roberto Duran but it was a combination of a shoulder separation and a hook right on it to help it out . I remember Takumbo Olajide being dropped by Mendoza and twisting his ankle resulting in tko, same as Tyson from a punch. Seems like a real shat way to lose yeh.

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