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    Default Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Hang on a minute, I don't want to sound like @erics44, but why do people on here talk about Bruno like he was a pile of shit?
    He went in with loads of World Champs, had a great Career , rocked Tyson when he was at his peak, gave Lewis the fight of his life, was a World Champion.
    If any of this current crop surpass his achievements, they'll have had a very good career. I'm not saying that can't happen, but come on, show a bit of respect.������
    Agreed. Bruno did progress , coming back better from losses right up till Lewis fight in which he acquitted himself well, taking a risk a little too early on Lewis.
    Bruno was stopped by Bonecrushe, Witherspoon and rocked by Jumbo.

    A peak Tyson was going through a divorce, fighting in the street and unconditioned but Frank still fails to win. Bruno wins the title at his 4th attempt clinging on for dear life.Bruno then gets blown way by a shell of a Tyson after prison in his first defence. Frank was more fragile that Amir Khan.
    He gassed in the last round against Bonecrusher (who became a World Champion btw) after winning the first 9 rounds. Good learning fight for him.
    He got stopped by Witherspoon , who was World Champion.
    In the fight immediately before Bruno, Tyson had just knocked out Michael Spinks in the 1st round when everyone was saying that was going to be his biggest test to date. Immediately after he beat Bruno , he beats Carl "the truth" Williams , who was One of the best around at the time, again 1 st round KO.
    Yes, he got rocked by Jumbo Cummings, but KO'd him in the end. So AJ can get rocked by Whyte and win, and Fury can get floored by a CW And some Serbian and win, and that's OK?
    So he won the World Title at the 4th attempt, so what? Martyn Murray never.
    I'm not saying Bruno was a World beater, and I'm not saying he didn't have flaws, but he was a hard hitting brave guy, who always came in the ring in shape.
    Today's batch have got the potential to surpass him , but they haven't done so yet, so let's not be so disparaging about him.
    What if Fury and AJ lost their next fights? And are Haye's achievements at HW any better than Bruno? Is Haye's victory over Valuev better than Bruno's v McCall? And are Bruno's efforts v Lewis and Tyson 1 worse than Haye's effort v Wlad? Just saying.😄
    Fury has just surpassed him. Winning multiple world titles in his first challenge against the universally recognised best fighter in the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Hang on a minute, I don't want to sound like @erics44, but why do people on here talk about Bruno like he was a pile of shit?
    He went in with loads of World Champs, had a great Career , rocked Tyson when he was at his peak, gave Lewis the fight of his life, was a World Champion.
    If any of this current crop surpass his achievements, they'll have had a very good career. I'm not saying that can't happen, but come on, show a bit of respect.������
    Agreed. Bruno did progress , coming back better from losses right up till Lewis fight in which he acquitted himself well, taking a risk a little too early on Lewis.
    Bruno was stopped by Bonecrushe, Witherspoon and rocked by Jumbo.

    A peak Tyson was going through a divorce, fighting in the street and unconditioned but Frank still fails to win. Bruno wins the title at his 4th attempt clinging on for dear life.Bruno then gets blown way by a shell of a Tyson after prison in his first defence. Frank was more fragile that Amir Khan.
    He gassed in the last round against Bonecrusher (who became a World Champion btw) after winning the first 9 rounds. Good learning fight for him.
    He got stopped by Witherspoon , who was World Champion.
    In the fight immediately before Bruno, Tyson had just knocked out Michael Spinks in the 1st round when everyone was saying that was going to be his biggest test to date. Immediately after he beat Bruno , he beats Carl "the truth" Williams , who was One of the best around at the time, again 1 st round KO.
    Yes, he got rocked by Jumbo Cummings, but KO'd him in the end. So AJ can get rocked by Whyte and win, and Fury can get floored by a CW And some Serbian and win, and that's OK?
    So he won the World Title at the 4th attempt, so what? Martyn Murray never.
    I'm not saying Bruno was a World beater, and I'm not saying he didn't have flaws, but he was a hard hitting brave guy, who always came in the ring in shape.
    Today's batch have got the potential to surpass him , but they haven't done so yet, so let's not be so disparaging about him.
    What if Fury and AJ lost their next fights? And are Haye's achievements at HW any better than Bruno? Is Haye's victory over Valuev better than Bruno's v McCall? And are Bruno's efforts v Lewis and Tyson 1 worse than Haye's effort v Wlad? Just saying.😄
    Fury has just surpassed him. Winning multiple world titles in his first challenge against the universally recognised best fighter in the world!
    So one fight makes a whole career? With your smiley emoji, I hope that tells me you're kidding around and you're not serious?
    While it was a good victory, he's done LITERALLY nothing else yet. Otherwise by your line of thinking , Buster Douglas is one of the ATG's and definitely one of the top 3 HW's of the last 30 years.

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    Default Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

    Bruno would have koed fury in the first half of the fight
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    Default Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Hang on a minute, I don't want to sound like @erics44, but why do people on here talk about Bruno like he was a pile of shit?
    He went in with loads of World Champs, had a great Career , rocked Tyson when he was at his peak, gave Lewis the fight of his life, was a World Champion.
    If any of this current crop surpass his achievements, they'll have had a very good career. I'm not saying that can't happen, but come on, show a bit of respect.������
    Agreed. Bruno did progress , coming back better from losses right up till Lewis fight in which he acquitted himself well, taking a risk a little too early on Lewis.
    Bruno was stopped by Bonecrushe, Witherspoon and rocked by Jumbo.

    A peak Tyson was going through a divorce, fighting in the street and unconditioned but Frank still fails to win. Bruno wins the title at his 4th attempt clinging on for dear life.Bruno then gets blown way by a shell of a Tyson after prison in his first defence. Frank was more fragile that Amir Khan.
    He gassed in the last round against Bonecrusher (who became a World Champion btw) after winning the first 9 rounds. Good learning fight for him.
    He got stopped by Witherspoon , who was World Champion.
    In the fight immediately before Bruno, Tyson had just knocked out Michael Spinks in the 1st round when everyone was saying that was going to be his biggest test to date. Immediately after he beat Bruno , he beats Carl "the truth" Williams , who was One of the best around at the time, again 1 st round KO.
    Yes, he got rocked by Jumbo Cummings, but KO'd him in the end. So AJ can get rocked by Whyte and win, and Fury can get floored by a CW And some Serbian and win, and that's OK?
    So he won the World Title at the 4th attempt, so what? Martyn Murray never.
    I'm not saying Bruno was a World beater, and I'm not saying he didn't have flaws, but he was a hard hitting brave guy, who always came in the ring in shape.
    Today's batch have got the potential to surpass him , but they haven't done so yet, so let's not be so disparaging about him.
    What if Fury and AJ lost their next fights? And are Haye's achievements at HW any better than Bruno? Is Haye's victory over Valuev better than Bruno's v McCall? And are Bruno's efforts v Lewis and Tyson 1 worse than Haye's effort v Wlad? Just saying.😄
    Fury has just surpassed him. Winning multiple world titles in his first challenge against the universally recognised best fighter in the world!
    So one fight makes a whole career? With your smiley emoji, I hope that tells me you're kidding around and you're not serious?
    While it was a good victory, he's done LITERALLY nothing else yet. Otherwise by your line of thinking , Buster Douglas is one of the ATG's and definitely one of the top 3 HW's of the last 30 years.
    One fight doesnt make a whole career but to beat the best heavyweight in the world and a genuine contender for an all time top ten place and was as hig as 7th in some ratings easily surpasses anything Bruno achieved!

    Bruno lost to a fellow contender before he even got a title shot then he failed at the first attempt against a lesser champ when the recognised best was Holmes.

    You are arguing for the sake of it and I dont mind because everyone else can clearly see you are wrong.

    Oh also, randomly putting the biggest upset in sports history in as any kind of argument to say that Douglas beats eveyones career is pathetic. I didnt say Fury had a better career, although its clear he will. I said hes already surpassed Bruno for the reasons above you mug!

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    Default Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

    Fury's win is better than any Bruno had. He'll never be half as popular though, the minute he gets chinned he'll be rubbished.

    If they fought - Bruno would be a trembling wreck at the press conference let alone in the ring staring up at that giant nutty sod.
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    Primo when you beat a top ten all time fighter who was seen as leagues above everyone else in the division comfortably in their own back yard on their own promotion you arent just a flash in the pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Primo when you beat a top ten all time fighter who was seen as leagues above everyone else in the division comfortably in their own back yard on their own promotion you arent just a flash in the pan.
    Where to start. firstly he's not a top 10 ATG. you yourself said that his brother was the man in the division and he has only been number one for 2 years. obviously , once Fury beat him, you changed your mind and Wlad became this ATG because it suits your argument.
    btw, I would love to see your All Time top 10 and who you put Wlad above!
    as for "a flash in the pan" , if he lost his next fight , that is EXACTLY what he would be. The future will tell us everything , but as it stands Fury has had one very good win in a World Title fight and become champion. every single fight before amounts to very little, the standard of opposition is very, very poor. This isn't just aimed at Fury, I think that virtually all today's HW's including and especially Wilder are in the same boat.
    It's not to say that Fury will not eclipse Bruno in the future, but at the moment , he has a one fight career at the top level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Primo when you beat a top ten all time fighter who was seen as leagues above everyone else in the division comfortably in their own back yard on their own promotion you arent just a flash in the pan.
    You missed out "at the end of their career whilst both of you threw about the same amount of punches even useless overrated rubbish heavyweights like AJ throw in a round ".

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    Default Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

    What do you guys consider the better one off win ?
    Douglas beating an unbeaten Tyson or fury beating a 39 year old champion ?
    Let's not forget Douglas put on loads of weight and lost his title in his first defence to Holyfield.

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    Bruno would smash fury and wlad on the same night
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