Who is the best and worst of britains 12 world champions?

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If he had been exactly the same fighter only 6'6 and 230 pounds, do you think he would have been? It just doesn't work. I was in favour of Fury getting the nod for this reason, surely that shouldn't garner your criticism

Yes he has skills.

Look at Wach! He has size and steroids and still cant do fuck all!

Tyson has excellent skills, stamina, movement and roughhousing old man tricks. Hes not just big like you would all like to think to try and discredit him.

Ross you have lost it mate. p4pking is not trying to discredit the average but freakishly big underpowered chinny Tyson Fury at all.

Ok, by saying making him 3" shorter that he wouldnt have the same success is not degrading his skills?

Tyson didnt beat Wlad by being big. He beat him with movement exactly like I said he would. Wlad also didnt get old. His feet were quick but he didnt want to get in punching range and combined with Tysons speed and movement it gave Wlad no chance and ended up looking pretty much as I said it would like Clay v Liston.

[Primo Carnera]

If he had been exactly the same fighter only 6'6 and 230 pounds, do you think he would have been? It just doesn't work. I was in favour of Fury getting the nod for this reason, surely that shouldn't garner your criticism

Yes he has skills.

Look at Wach! He has size and steroids and still cant do fuck all!

Tyson has excellent skills, stamina, movement and roughhousing old man tricks. Hes not just big like you would all like to think to try and discredit him.

Ross you have lost it mate. p4pking is not trying to discredit the average but freakishly big underpowered chinny Tyson Fury at all.

Ok, by saying making him 3" shorter that he wouldnt have the same success is not degrading his skills?

Tyson didnt beat Wlad by being big. He beat him with movement exactly like I said he would. Wlad also didnt get old. His feet were quick but he didnt want to get in punching range and combined with Tysons speed and movement it gave Wlad no chance and ended up looking pretty much as I said it would like Clay v Liston.

Yeah, except Clay threw more punches in 1 round than Fury and Wlad combined in the whole fight! 😏

[Master]

Fury threw enough to win the round to beat Wlad but the former champions output was very low. Wlad looked confused and bewildered in the fight as if his mind was on something else. It was a bad performance by Wlad but so glad Fury won the title.

I hope the rematch is in UK.

[ross]

If he had been exactly the same fighter only 6'6 and 230 pounds, do you think he would have been? It just doesn't work. I was in favour of Fury getting the nod for this reason, surely that shouldn't garner your criticism

Yes he has skills.

Look at Wach! He has size and steroids and still cant do fuck all!

Tyson has excellent skills, stamina, movement and roughhousing old man tricks. Hes not just big like you would all like to think to try and discredit him.

Ross you have lost it mate. p4pking is not trying to discredit the average but freakishly big underpowered chinny Tyson Fury at all.

Ok, by saying making him 3" shorter that he wouldnt have the same success is not degrading his skills?

Tyson didnt beat Wlad by being big. He beat him with movement exactly like I said he would. Wlad also didnt get old. His feet were quick but he didnt want to get in punching range and combined with Tysons speed and movement it gave Wlad no chance and ended up looking pretty much as I said it would like Clay v Liston.

Yeah, except Clay threw more punches in 1 round than Fury and Wlad combined in the whole fight! 😏

Fury had a more dangerous opponent in front of him.

Ross - of course Fury wouldnt be as good if he was 3 inches shorter. Thats not degrading at all its just common sense. A heavyweight will never match a welterweight in terms of skill. Hes carrying much more weight and will never move as fluently or as gracefully. Just like a welter is never going to have the punching power of a heavy or have to worry about every opponent having the power to hurt you.

Why? What 6,6" heavies are there that have Furys other attributes? Like movement, speed, combination punching and stamina?

Fury threw enough to win the round to beat Wlad but the former champions output was very low. Wlad looked confused and bewildered in the fight as if his mind was on something else. It was a bad performance by Wlad but so glad Fury won the title.

I hope the rematch is in UK.

His mind was on not getting caught amd bewildered is right. Hes never faced anyone who can move like Tyson. Only when he knew the clock was runnng down in the 12th did he start throwing caution to the wind.

[Primo Carnera]

Not sure about any of those answers, but I can't be fucked to copy all those quotes in and make a 3 million word post.
Out of Curiousity Ross, what are your thoughts on the rumour doing the rounds in Europe that Wlad threw the fight?

[Silkeyjoe]

Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.

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Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.

Haye would never beat Wlad because he's not good enough not because hes too small. He managedto get a decision against 7,2" Valuev!! Because Valuev was awfull!

[IamInuit]

It really is a sort of British invasion not seen since perhaps the late 80’s and early 90’s and perhaps more dominant an invasion with a pretty deep pool in waiting.

These will come in no real order but I do think Brook is the best of the lot.


Brook-In my view the class of the field. The whole field not just Britain. Once again though he’s just not being active enough. He might be a little lazy and in it for the money. He could also just be a victim of this getting a belt is enough era. Can’t even get a Khan fight done. Could be more about Khan knowing he gets messed up. Talent wasting away sitting around. Thanks for the blue print Floyd.

[Silkeyjoe]

Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.

Haye would never beat Wlad because he's not good enough not because hes too small. He managedto get a decision against 7,2" Valuev!! Because Valuev was awfull!

So would Floyd not beat Wlad because hes not good enough? Not because hes too small!

Obviously you have no reason when it comes to Fury so Ill just leave it there.

[Silkeyjoe]

Ross - of course Fury wouldnt be as good if he was 3 inches shorter. Thats not degrading at all its just common sense. A heavyweight will never match a welterweight in terms of skill. Hes carrying much more weight and will never move as fluently or as gracefully. Just like a welter is never going to have the punching power of a heavy or have to worry about every opponent having the power to hurt you.