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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

    Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

    David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.
    Haye would never beat Wlad because he's not good enough not because hes too small. He managedto get a decision against 7,2" Valuev!! Because Valuev was awfull!

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    It really is a sort of British invasion not seen since perhaps the late 80’s and early 90’s and perhaps more dominant an invasion with a pretty deep pool in waiting.

    These will come in no real order but I do think Brook is the best of the lot.


    Brook-In my view the class of the field. The whole field not just Britain. Once again though he’s just not being active enough. He might be a little lazy and in it for the money. He could also just be a victim of this getting a belt is enough era. Can’t even get a Khan fight done. Could be more about Khan knowing he gets messed up. Talent wasting away sitting around. Thanks for the blue print Floyd.

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    Degale-Eye test wise he might be the most talented but I think he’s a little vacant upstairs and maybe a little prone to melt down and as a result could get beat by guys he shouldn’t get beat by. Having said that he sure showed up against Dirrell. Perhaps that loss to Groves did have some long term effects upstairs. I have visions of him falling apart though. Its still a fairly deep division but again with champions that do not seem keen on sorting it out. Definitely a division top 5.

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    Quigg-Tidy fighter in my view and I reckon he stops Frampton. . I’d love to see Rigo and him tie one on. Quigg reminds me of Roman Gonzalez a little with his offense and punch selection. I think he makes Rigo fight and opens it up. Nice style clash imo. Would also like to see a Santa Cruz showdown. Scott is in the top 3 in the world at 122

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    Saunders-I was really impressed with the Lee fight. I saw a side of Saunders I was a little blinded by which was his solid D. Head movement, slipping punches, lateral movement, shoulder rolling etc* etc and some real tricky shots and counters delivered. I hope he fights the Kazak but he has to want to or its all for not. If he wants to wait and milk it a bit so be it. That kid with the famous dad is going to come callin.He's also a top 3 in the world guy at 160. Love to see him and Jacobs. Wide open division outside of Genghis Golovkin.

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    Smith-He’s a pretty good fighter but he’s in a fairly top heavy division. He may beat the Trouts and Clotteys of the world but I don’t see him sticking with the Charlo's, Andrade or Lara. He’s in tough over the long haul. Tough solid guy but I don't see him as a world beater

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    Crolla-An overachiever. Lightweight looks competitive but its not all that deep. Another British showdown between him and Flanagan beckons but he’s got an optional I think so that’s one that could build. I'd go with Terry in a unification. The top 5 or so are pretty steady at 135 and really it’s a division that could change title holders a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

    Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

    David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.
    Haye would never beat Wlad because he's not good enough not because hes too small. He managedto get a decision against 7,2" Valuev!! Because Valuev was awfull!
    So would Floyd not beat Wlad because hes not good enough? Not because hes too small!

    Obviously you have no reason when it comes to Fury so Ill just leave it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

    Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

    David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.
    Haye would never beat Wlad because he's not good enough not because hes too small. He managedto get a decision against 7,2" Valuev!! Because Valuev was awfull!
    So would Floyd not beat Wlad because hes not good enough? Not because hes too small!

    Obviously you have no reason when it comes to Fury so Ill just leave it there.
    Wlad is very very good.

    Floyd would probably have a good shot of beating Valuev!

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    Ross people don't detest Fury, they are just being balanced and reasonable in their appraisal of his abilities. You may not agree but the further over the top you go the less credence your opinion gathers.

    You have IamInuit's usual excellent breakdown of individual British fighters and all you can do is accuse him of hating Fury, when the guy is watching from Canada. Why would he hate Fury?

    What are your thoughts on anyone but Fury? All you ever talk about is Fury and Eubank Jr. Imagine if I crowed as much as you do because most people thought Saunders would be a feather fisted flash in the pan when I was insisting he was the real deal years ago.

    It's a boxing forum not the Fury fanclub.

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