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    Default Re: My 2015 list of the top 100 fighters of the Queensberry Rules era

    Lightweight

    10 Sammy Angott
    9 Julio Cesar Chavez
    8 Bob Montgomery
    7 Ike Williams
    6 Battling Nelson
    5 Joe Gans
    4 Pernell Whitaker
    3 Henry Armstrong
    2 Benny Leonard
    1 Roberto Duran

    Mentions: Jack McAuliffe, George Lavigne, Frank Erne, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Jimmy Carter, Carlos Ortiz, Ken Buchanan, Esteban DeJesus, Guts Ishimatsu (Ishimatsu Suzuki), Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Hector Camacho Snr, Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Steve Johnson, Jose Luis Castillo and Floyd Mayweather Jr

    Junior Lightweights:

    10 Manny Paciquao
    9 Johnny Dundee
    8 Floyd Mayweather Jr
    7 Brian Mitchell
    6 Sandy Saddler
    5 Kid Chocolate
    4 Azumah Nelson
    3 Alexis Arguello
    2 Flash Elorde
    1 Julio Cesar Chavez

    Mentions: Alfredo Escalera, Sammy Serrano, Bazooka Limon, Cornelius Boza-Edwards, Bobby Chacon, Roger Mayweather, Hector Camacho, Rocky Lockbridge, Tony Lopez, John John Molina, Genaro Hernandez, Oscar de la Hoya, Gabby Ruelas, Arturo Gatti, Acelino Freitas, Diego Corrales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales and Manny Paciquao

    Top 10 feathers

    The Featherweights are an incredibly talented group of fighters; my all-time list goes:

    10: Salvador Sanchez
    9: Joey Archibald
    8: Azumah Nelson
    7: Johnny Kilbane
    6: George Dixon
    5: Henry Armstrong
    4; Eusebio Pedroza
    3: Abe Attell
    2: Willie Pep
    1: Sandy Saddler

    Honorary mentions: Young Griffo, Terry McGovern, Jim Driscoll, Bat Battalino, Hogan 'Kid' Bassey, Davey Moore, Sugar Ramos, Vicente Saldivar, Eder Jofre, Antonio Esparragoza, Naseem Hamed and Marco Antonio Barrera

    Mentions: Ben Jordan, Young Corbett II, Johnny Dundee, Kid Kaplan, Tony Canzoneri, Kid Chocolate, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Howard Winstone, Alexis Arguello, Danny Lopez, Juan LaPorte, Jeff Fenech, Marcos Villasana, Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelley, Eloy Rojas, Manuel Medina, Wilfred Vazquez, Erik Morales, and Manny Pacquiao.

    Super Bantamweights

    10 Kennedy McKinney
    9 Seung Hoon Lee
    8 Manny Paciquao
    7 Junior Jones
    6 Vuyani Bungu
    5 Marco Antonio Barrera
    4 Erik Morales
    3 Jeff Fenech
    2 Daniel Zaragoza
    1 Wilfredo Gomez

    Mentions: Welcome Ncita, Paul Banke, Wilfredo Vazquez, Raul Perez, Tracy Harris Patterson, Antonio Cermeno, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Bones Adams, Oscar Larios and Israel Vazquez

    Bantamweights

    10 Kaosai Galaxy
    9 Lupe Pintor
    8 Jeff Chandler
    7 Al Brown
    6 Jimmy Carruthers
    5 Ruben Olivares
    4 Manuel Ortiz
    3 Eder Jofre
    2 Terry McGovern
    1 Carlos Zarate

    Mentions: George Dixon, Billy Plimmer, Pedlar Palmer, Jimmy Walsh, Kid Williams, Pete Herman, Sixto Escobar, Vic Toweel, Alphonse Halimi, Lionel Rose, Alfonso Zamora, Jeff Fenech, Gilberto Roman, Miguel Happy Lora, Orlando Canizales, Raul Perez, Sung Il Moon and Rafael Marquez

    Flyweight

    10 Fidel La Barba
    9 Midget Wolgast
    8 Little Dado
    7 Myung Woo Yuh
    6 Jung Koo Chang
    5 Pascual Perez
    4 Rinty Monaghan
    3 Ricardo Lopez
    2 Pancho Villa
    1 Jimmy Wilde

    Mentions: Jackie Brown, Benny Lynch, Small Montana, Jackie Paterson, Pone Kingpetch, Fighting Harada, Miguel Canto, Santos Laciar, Hilario Zapata, Sot Chitalada, Humberto Gonzales, Michael Carbajal, Saman Sorjaturong and Yuri Arbachakov
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    Default Re: My 2015 list of the top 100 fighters of the Queensberry Rules era

    Top 100 Feb 2007

    100 Manny Paciquao
    99 Harry Wills
    98 Kid McCoy
    97 Jeff Fenech
    96 Carlos Ortiz
    95 Jimmy McLarnin
    94 Tony Zale
    93 Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
    92 Freddie Welsh
    91 Dick Tiger
    90 Jeff Chandler
    89 James J Corbett
    88 Brian Mitchell
    87 Wilfredo Gomez
    86 Kid Chocolate
    85 Marcel Cerdan
    84 Joe Frazier
    83 Winky Wright
    82 Kostya Tszyu
    81 Jimmy Carruthers
    80 Jack McAuliffe
    79 Rinty Monaghan
    78 Nicolino Loche
    77 Mike Tyson
    76 Bob Montgomery
    75 Lennox Lewis
    74 Young Griffo
    73 Aaron Pryor
    72 Nino Benvenuti
    71 Jim Driscoll
    70 Salvador Sanchez
    69 Mike McCallum
    68 Jack Dempsey
    67 Flash Elorde
    66 Wilfred Benitez
    65 Rocky Marciano
    64 Felix Trinidad
    63 Abe Attell
    62 Antonio Cervantes
    61 James J Jeffries
    60 Al Brown
    59 Eusebio Pedroza
    58 Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
    57 Evander Holyfield
    56 Bob Foster
    55 Larry Holmes
    54 Stanley Ketchel (19)
    53 Michael Spinks
    52 Azumah Nelson
    51 Ruben Olivares (32)
    50 Jose Napoles
    49 Pascual Perez
    48 Manuel Ortiz
    47 Ike Williams
    46 Roy Jones Jr (35)
    45 Maxie Rosenbloom
    44 Jack Johnson
    43 Floyd Mayweather Jr
    42 Tony Canzoneri
    41 George Foreman (34)
    40 Eder Jofre (26)
    39 Johnny Kilbane
    38 Kid Gavilan
    37 Tommy Loughran
    36 Ricardo Lopez
    35 Alexis Arguello (24)
    34 Bernard Hopkins
    33 Carlos Zarate (25)
    32 (Barbados) Joe Walcott
    31 Tommy Hearns (31)
    30 Marvin Hagler (30)
    29 Pancho Villa (21)
    28 Emile Griffith
    27 Joe Louis (29)
    26 Joe Gans (33)
    25 Gene Tunney (28.)
    24 Terry McGovern
    23 George Dixon (27)
    22 Georges Carpentier (4)
    21 Oscar de la Hoya (22)
    20 Pernell Whitaker (23)
    19 Julio Cesar Chavez (15)
    18 Sammy Langford (9)
    17 Barney Ross
    16 Ray Leonard (13)
    15 Carlos Monzon (12)
    14 Ezzard Charles (17)
    13 Bob Fitzsimmons (20)
    12 Benny Leonard (16)
    11 Charley Burley (10)
    10 Muhammad Ali (11)
    9 Harry Grebb (18.)
    8 Jimmy Wilde (7)
    7 Sandy Saddler (5)
    6 Willie Pep (6)
    5 Mickey Walker (14)
    4 Archie Moore (8.)
    3 Roberto Duran (3)
    2 Henry Armstrong (2)
    1 Ray Robinson (1)
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    Default Re: My 2015 list of the top 100 fighters of the Queensberry Rules era

    Top 100 Jan 2011

    100 Jem Mace
    99 Nicolino Loche (78)
    98 Kostya Tszyu (82)
    97 Ken Buchanan
    96 Jeff Chandler (90)
    95 Joe Frazier (84)
    94 Eusebio Pedroza (59)
    93 Kid McCoy (98)
    92 Jung Koo Chang
    91 Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis (93)
    90 Jack McAuliffe (80)
    89 Shane Mosley
    88 John L Sullivan
    87 James J Corbett (89)
    86 Tony Zale (94)
    85 Mike Tyson (77)
    84 Al Brown (60)
    83 Rinty Monaghan (79)
    82 Lennox Lewis (75)
    81 Benny Lynch
    80 Felix Trinidad (64)
    79 Aaron Pryor (73)
    78 Nino Benvenuti (72)
    77 Carlos Ortiz (96)
    76 Les Darcy
    75 Freddie Welsh (92)
    74 Wilfred Benitez (66)
    73 Mike McCallum (69)
    72 Bob Montgomery (76)
    71 Wilfredo Gomez (87)
    70 Jose Napoles (50)
    69 Pancho Villa (29)
    68 Kid Gavilan (38)
    67 Carmen Basilio
    66 Georges Carpentier (22)
    65 Salvador Sanchez (70)
    64 Jimmy Carruthers (81)
    63 Antonio Cervantes (62)
    62 Ruben Olivares (51)
    61 Kid Chocolate (86)
    60 Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil) (58)
    59 Ike Williams (47)
    58 James J Jeffries (61)
    57 Jack Dempsey (68)
    56 Jim Driscoll (71)
    55 Rocky Marciano (65)
    54 George Foreman (41)
    53 Jimmy McLarnin (95)
    52 Tony Canzoneri (42)
    51 Maxie Rosenbloom (45)
    50 Azumah Nelson (52)
    49 Tommy Loughran (37)
    48 Alexis Arguello (35)
    47 Pascual Perez (49)
    46 Carlos Zarate (33)
    45 Young Griffo (74)
    44 Abe Attell (63)
    43 Larry Holmes (55)
    42 Ricardo Lopez (36)
    41 Manuel Ortiz (48)
    40 Eder Jofre (40)
    39 Bob Foster (56)
    38 Roy Jones Jr (46)
    37 Michael Spinks (53)
    36 Marvin Hagler (30)
    35 Stanley Ketchel (54)
    34 Emile Griffith (28)
    33 Manny Paciquao (100)
    32 Oscar de la Hoya (21)
    31 Evander Holyfield (57)
    30 Tommy Hearns (31)
    29 Bernard Hopkins (34)
    28 Floyd Mayweather Jr (43)
    27 Gene Tunney (25)
    26 Jack Johnson (44)
    25 George Dixon (23)
    24 Terry McGovern (24)
    23 Julio Cesar Chavez (19)
    22 Charley Burley (11)
    21 Mickey Walker (5)
    20 Pernell Whitaker (20)
    19 (Barbados) Joe Walcott (32)
    18 Sammy Langford (18)
    17 Willie Pep (6)
    16 Sandy Saddler (7)
    15 Barney Ross (17)
    14 Joe Gans (26)
    13 Carlos Monzon (15)
    12 Benny Leonard (12)
    11 Jimmy Wilde (8)
    10 Ray Leonard (16)
    9 Joe Louis (27)
    8 Archie Moore (4)
    7 Ezzard Charles (14)
    6 Muhammad Ali (10)
    5 Bob Fitzsimmons (13)
    4 Harry Grebb (9)
    3 Roberto Duran (3)
    2 Henry Armstrong (2)
    1 Ray Robinson (1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Having Jem Mace at 100 discredits your entire list.
    Where (roughly) would you put him?
    Not sure, but if you are going to have Fitzsimmons at 4 you can hardly have the guy who discovered him and virtually single handedly invented the jab, combinations and footwork still used today, 96 places below him. Mace amassed a fortune, fought all over the world, would have no part in the avoiding of black fighters like Langford and regularly beat heavyweights and others in weights above him, despite being a middle.

    He was smart and adaptable, teak tough and could find a way to win in any era against many of those in the list below him. It's only my opinion but there are also a myriad other reasons his image has been on my profile page since the moment i landed here.

    Mace is the father of the modern gloved game but was honed in an era when slugging it out in the mud for hours would have given him a heart big enough to spit many others on the list out like a used Wad of tobacco.

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    Default Re: My 2015 list of the top 100 fighters of the Queensberry Rules era

    It's like when Britkid was in his pomp. Nice.

    I looked up some of the fossils. 73rd ranked Young Griffo turned up for one fight so blotto that he quit within one minute of it starting, claiming he had been in a car crash the day before and was to ill to fight. Beat that.
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